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this is very interesting -When Unreal 4 swapped out UnrealScript for C++ it went into overdrive in terms of performance and clean. why do you think this happen

this is very interesting -When Unreal 4 swapped out UnrealScript for C++ it went into overdrive in terms of performance and clean. why do you think this happened? why was C++ so much better

fxtentacle 6y ago
Because there is excellent tooling for C++, while they had to reinvent all the tools from scratch for UnrealScript. I believe that ReSharper C++ alone makes me 10-20% more productive. Their refactorings and inferred constants are amazing and produce real-world performance benefits. Plus having const wherever it is warranted makes code easier to read and easier to debug.
- winrid 6y ago
  Why ReSharper and not CLion?
  - fxtentacle 6y ago
    Mostly habit. I started using ReSharper long before CLion was introduced.
drawkbox 6y ago
C++ is very common in gamedev largely for the performance, less learning another language and more direct. UnrealScript in previous Unreal versions was simple but so is the necessary C++ for Unreal 4. Developers can make pure C++ games, or they have a simpler way using Blueprints that you can add into C++/Blueprint mixed games [1][2], or purely Blueprint that helps for non programmers though they are slower. There was lots of work to keep UnrealScript synced with the engine. Without that middle layer of a DSL, going direct is also important since everything needs to perform on mobile but also be native/AOT compiled. Helps for consoles, desktops and web as well. Fun fact: Unity was going to go to C++ in 2013 during the Apple blocking Flash and other JIT tools, Unity thought they were going to be blocked from mobile publishing. [3] Since you can't run interpreted code Unity was going to go C++, I wish they had with C# as a scripting language maybe. Instead Mono had AOT compiling around that time but since the Mono license was expensive they built IL2CPP which takes byte code and makes C++ from it. About a year later Mono was bought by Microsoft and it would have been free for Unity to integrate. Though I still wish they would have went C++ with C# scripting that creates C++, would have been an easier route. I believe much of their problem is all these complicated legacy/translation systems at the base of the engine, which just going direct C++ would be easier with scripting on top of that that directly converts to C++. Godot you can also use C++ and other languages including C#, GDScript. [4] Early days of Unity you could use C#, Javascript, Boo (Python flavor) or anything that Mono supported. [1] https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/Resources/SampleGames/ARPG/BalancingBlueprintAndCPP/index.html https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/Resources/SampleGames/AR... [2] https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/Gameplay/ClassCreation/CodeAndBlueprints/index.html https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/Gameplay/ClassCreation/C... [3] https://blogs.unity3d.com/2010/07/02/unity-and-ios-4-0-update-iii/ https://blogs.unity3d.com/2010/07/02/unity-and-ios-4-0-updat... [4] https://docs.godotengine.org/en/stable/tutorials/plugins/gdnative/gdnative-cpp-example.html https://docs.godotengine.org/en/stable/tutorials/plugins/gdn...

this is very interesting -When Unreal 4 swapped out UnrealScript for C++ it went into overdrive in terms of performance and clean. why do you think this happened? why was C++ so much better

fxtentacle 6y ago

Because there is excellent tooling for C++, while they had to reinvent all the tools from scratch for UnrealScript. I believe that ReSharper C++ alone makes me 10-20% more productive. Their refactorings and inferred constants are amazing and produce real-world performance benefits. Plus having const wherever it is warranted makes code easier to read and easier to debug.

winrid 6y ago
Why ReSharper and not CLion?
- fxtentacle 6y ago
  Mostly habit. I started using ReSharper long before CLion was introduced.

drawkbox 6y ago

C++ is very common in gamedev largely for the performance, less learning another language and more direct. UnrealScript in previous Unreal versions was simple but so is the necessary C++ for Unreal 4. Developers can make pure C++ games, or they have a simpler way using Blueprints that you can add into C++/Blueprint mixed games [1][2], or purely Blueprint that helps for non programmers though they are slower. There was lots of work to keep UnrealScript synced with the engine. Without that middle layer of a DSL, going direct is also important since everything needs to perform on mobile but also be native/AOT compiled. Helps for consoles, desktops and web as well. Fun fact: Unity was going to go to C++ in 2013 during the Apple blocking Flash and other JIT tools, Unity thought they were going to be blocked from mobile publishing. [3] Since you can't run interpreted code Unity was going to go C++, I wish they had with C# as a scripting language maybe. Instead Mono had AOT compiling around that time but since the Mono license was expensive they built IL2CPP which takes byte code and makes C++ from it. About a year later Mono was bought by Microsoft and it would have been free for Unity to integrate. Though I still wish they would have went C++ with C# scripting that creates C++, would have been an easier route. I believe much of their problem is all these complicated legacy/translation systems at the base of the engine, which just going direct C++ would be easier with scripting on top of that that directly converts to C++. Godot you can also use C++ and other languages including C#, GDScript. [4] Early days of Unity you could use C#, Javascript, Boo (Python flavor) or anything that Mono supported. [1] https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/Resources/SampleGames/ARPG/BalancingBlueprintAndCPP/index.html https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/Resources/SampleGames/AR... [2] https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/Gameplay/ClassCreation/CodeAndBlueprints/index.html https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/Gameplay/ClassCreation/C... [3] https://blogs.unity3d.com/2010/07/02/unity-and-ios-4-0-update-iii/ https://blogs.unity3d.com/2010/07/02/unity-and-ios-4-0-updat... [4] https://docs.godotengine.org/en/stable/tutorials/plugins/gdnative/gdnative-cpp-example.html https://docs.godotengine.org/en/stable/tutorials/plugins/gdn...