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I just stared playing Mindustry [1] after someone on HN recommended it a few days ago and I'm hooked. My understanding is that it's roughly a Factorio clone, wh

by tgb 6y ago

I just stared playing Mindustry [1] after someone on HN recommended it a few days ago and I'm hooked. My understanding is that it's roughly a Factorio clone, which I haven't played. Should I go play the original? Glad the developer got what they were owed here. [1] https://mindustrygame.github.io https://mindustrygame.github.io

WrtCdEvrydy 6y ago
Mindindustry looks a lot like The Space Game... thanks for turning me unto it.
dependenttypes 6y ago
They are very different. Mindustry focuses more on the waves of enemies and tower defence aspect while in Factorio the enemies are kind of a secondary thing.
db48x 6y ago
Yes, I think you would probably like Factorio. It even has a demo, which makes it easy.
Lazare 6y ago
I've played both, and while Mindustry is good, it's...hmmm. Mindustry is a tower defense game with surprisingly deep supply chain, research, and crafting system bolted on to it. They're still very much secondary. Factorio is a stupidly complex supply chain optimization problem, that also has an actual game bolted on to it, and some of the gameplay is tower defence related, sure (depending on your game settings). They look similar, and both let you mine ore to turn into ammo for turrets, but the similarities end there. If you really enjoy the tower defence part of Mindustry, Factorio will probably seem like an overly complicated version of Mindustry that's not even as fun. If you're fine with the tower defense parts of Mindustry but you just really want to spend 6 hours redesigning your secondary copper smelter to iron out a throughput kink which is causing bottlenecks in your northwest electronic fabs, with flow on effects to your entire atomic energy program, then you'll love Factorio. (Disclosure: I much prefer Factorio.) Also, Factorio is quite moddable, and there are some interesting mods that make it even more insane, so there's that to look forward to as well. If you're curious, I'd recommend giving it a try. If you're still cautious, there are a ton of really good streamers and lets plays on Youtube; they should give an EXCELLENT view of what the game is like and if it's "for you". Finally, if you do like Factorio, I'd also recommend modded minecraft. Some packs focus heavily on massive, enormous research trees and automation.
- damidekronik 6y ago
  Could you please link some of the minecraft mods worth looking at? I did reasearch that in the past but was disappointed greatly. Thanks in advance!
  - hoseja 6y ago
    You can start at /r/feedthebeast on reddit. Modern industrial-theme-modded minecraft has some massive and well crafted modpacks. If you want a concrete insane example, try Project Ozone 3.
    - damidekronik 6y ago
      Project Ozone 3 seems great indeed. Thank you!
  - aspenmayer 6y ago
    Not OP. A bit out of the game but when I was watching streamers a few years ago Buildcraft was pretty popular. https://www.mod-buildcraft.com https://www.mod-buildcraft.com Another comment mentioned this modpack: https://www.feed-the-beast.com https://www.feed-the-beast.com
    - damidekronik 6y ago
      Analysis paralysis of which one to choose is getting real. Thanks for the recommendations.
      - aspenmayer 6y ago
        Go with FTB. From skimming the news on the FTB page, I saw that buildcraft appeared to get an update, which implies it is included. FTB is a huge mod pack with many popular mods on integrated to work well together. You can always go back to vanilla buildcraft if you want.
  - tialaramex 6y ago
jl6 6y ago
Don’t play Factorio if you have other responsibilities such as family, friends, work or hobbies.
- GaryNumanVevo 6y ago
  I work all day, then start my second job. Optimizing my way to a 1k science per minute base. Good thing I upgraded my PC last year!
  - rkuykendall-com 6y ago
    The factory must grow to meet the needs of a growing factory!
    - beckingz 6y ago
      The PC must grow to meet the needs of a growing factory
- StavrosK 6y ago
  I avoided Factorio for years because it sounded like the sort of thing I'd get addicted to. At one point about a month ago, I saw it here and decided to give it a try. I barely slept for the next two weeks, I played something like 100 hours in that time, and kept going to bed at 7 am. Luckily, I never played again after launching the missile, it's kind of lost its appeal after I saw the full tech tree and there was nothing else to research.
  - Obi_Juan_Kenobi 6y ago
    > the full tech tree Thanks to modding, such a thing does not exist. Bob's & Angel's is the most popular big mod. Krastorio2 is a recent 'vanilla+' offering that I've been enjoying a lot recently. The 'familiar but different' feel is very compelling. There are loads of smaller mods, but I've always like the modpack approach a la Minecraft. It's noteworthy that Wube has unofficially supported the Krastorio2 modders. It demonstrates their commitment to the community, and was just a great decision all around.
Erwin 6y ago
I played and enjoyed both casually (40hish hours); in addition Satisfactory is also fun, as it has a more immersive 3D view: imagine a giant tower of stacked factories with belts and elevators rushing resource in and out. Dedicated SF players build enormous, enormous multi level structures. SF is different in that as you explore the world, you can find alternative and perhaps more different recipes and combat against the passive monsters is entirely player vs monster.
acheron 6y ago
I had the exact same question, thanks for posting it. My issue is that 15 years of using Steam have taught me to almost never buy a game unless it's on sale, and Factorio doesn't go on sale. I get they're taking some sort of principled stand or whatever, but honestly I am way more likely to buy a game listed for $40 that's "on sale" for $30 than one that's just $30. Hell I'm probably more likely to buy the game "on sale" for $32 or $33. Obviously this is a stupid psychological trick and I recognize I'm falling for it, but it definitely happens to me, at least where Steam is concerned.

by tgb 6y ago

WrtCdEvrydy 6y ago

Mindindustry looks a lot like The Space Game... thanks for turning me unto it.

dependenttypes 6y ago

They are very different. Mindustry focuses more on the waves of enemies and tower defence aspect while in Factorio the enemies are kind of a secondary thing.

db48x 6y ago

Yes, I think you would probably like Factorio. It even has a demo, which makes it easy.

Lazare 6y ago

I've played both, and while Mindustry is good, it's...hmmm. Mindustry is a tower defense game with surprisingly deep supply chain, research, and crafting system bolted on to it. They're still very much secondary. Factorio is a stupidly complex supply chain optimization problem, that also has an actual game bolted on to it, and some of the gameplay is tower defence related, sure (depending on your game settings). They look similar, and both let you mine ore to turn into ammo for turrets, but the similarities end there. If you really enjoy the tower defence part of Mindustry, Factorio will probably seem like an overly complicated version of Mindustry that's not even as fun. If you're fine with the tower defense parts of Mindustry but you just really want to spend 6 hours redesigning your secondary copper smelter to iron out a throughput kink which is causing bottlenecks in your northwest electronic fabs, with flow on effects to your entire atomic energy program, then you'll love Factorio. (Disclosure: I much prefer Factorio.) Also, Factorio is quite moddable, and there are some interesting mods that make it even more insane, so there's that to look forward to as well. If you're curious, I'd recommend giving it a try. If you're still cautious, there are a ton of really good streamers and lets plays on Youtube; they should give an EXCELLENT view of what the game is like and if it's "for you". Finally, if you do like Factorio, I'd also recommend modded minecraft. Some packs focus heavily on massive, enormous research trees and automation.

damidekronik 6y ago
Could you please link some of the minecraft mods worth looking at? I did reasearch that in the past but was disappointed greatly. Thanks in advance!
- hoseja 6y ago
  You can start at /r/feedthebeast on reddit. Modern industrial-theme-modded minecraft has some massive and well crafted modpacks. If you want a concrete insane example, try Project Ozone 3.
  - damidekronik 6y ago
    Project Ozone 3 seems great indeed. Thank you!
- aspenmayer 6y ago
  Not OP. A bit out of the game but when I was watching streamers a few years ago Buildcraft was pretty popular. https://www.mod-buildcraft.com https://www.mod-buildcraft.com Another comment mentioned this modpack: https://www.feed-the-beast.com https://www.feed-the-beast.com
  - damidekronik 6y ago
    Analysis paralysis of which one to choose is getting real. Thanks for the recommendations.
    - aspenmayer 6y ago
      Go with FTB. From skimming the news on the FTB page, I saw that buildcraft appeared to get an update, which implies it is included. FTB is a huge mod pack with many popular mods on integrated to work well together. You can always go back to vanilla buildcraft if you want.
- tialaramex 6y ago

jl6 6y ago

Don’t play Factorio if you have other responsibilities such as family, friends, work or hobbies.

GaryNumanVevo 6y ago
I work all day, then start my second job. Optimizing my way to a 1k science per minute base. Good thing I upgraded my PC last year!
- rkuykendall-com 6y ago
  The factory must grow to meet the needs of a growing factory!
  - beckingz 6y ago
    The PC must grow to meet the needs of a growing factory
StavrosK 6y ago
I avoided Factorio for years because it sounded like the sort of thing I'd get addicted to. At one point about a month ago, I saw it here and decided to give it a try. I barely slept for the next two weeks, I played something like 100 hours in that time, and kept going to bed at 7 am. Luckily, I never played again after launching the missile, it's kind of lost its appeal after I saw the full tech tree and there was nothing else to research.
- Obi_Juan_Kenobi 6y ago
  > the full tech tree Thanks to modding, such a thing does not exist. Bob's & Angel's is the most popular big mod. Krastorio2 is a recent 'vanilla+' offering that I've been enjoying a lot recently. The 'familiar but different' feel is very compelling. There are loads of smaller mods, but I've always like the modpack approach a la Minecraft. It's noteworthy that Wube has unofficially supported the Krastorio2 modders. It demonstrates their commitment to the community, and was just a great decision all around.

Erwin 6y ago

I played and enjoyed both casually (40hish hours); in addition Satisfactory is also fun, as it has a more immersive 3D view: imagine a giant tower of stacked factories with belts and elevators rushing resource in and out. Dedicated SF players build enormous, enormous multi level structures. SF is different in that as you explore the world, you can find alternative and perhaps more different recipes and combat against the passive monsters is entirely player vs monster.

acheron 6y ago

I had the exact same question, thanks for posting it. My issue is that 15 years of using Steam have taught me to almost never buy a game unless it's on sale, and Factorio doesn't go on sale. I get they're taking some sort of principled stand or whatever, but honestly I am way more likely to buy a game listed for $40 that's "on sale" for $30 than one that's just $30. Hell I'm probably more likely to buy the game "on sale" for $32 or $33. Obviously this is a stupid psychological trick and I recognize I'm falling for it, but it definitely happens to me, at least where Steam is concerned.