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From GitHub: Electronic Arts: 27 repos Azure: 1.8k repos n.b., I work in Azure, make your own conclusions.

pnako 6y ago
It's mostly templates, SDKs, etc. MS is open-sourcing the pieces of cheese that lead to their proprietary cloud-shaped trap. I don't think they've open-sourced anything related to Azure itself (i.e. if I wanted to run my own Azure-like cloud). I'm not saying it's a bad or even unethical strategy. I'm just saying that MS is not, remotely, an open-source company.
- colinmcdonald22 6y ago
  https://github.com/Microsoft/service-fabric https://github.com/Microsoft/service-fabric
- nine_k 6y ago
  How about VSCode and .Net Core?
  - mcny 6y ago
    I work with asp.net web api and angular (typescript) but I think the point stands. > Which of their former good selling products has microsoft open sourced? Neither Visual Studio Code nor .NET core fits this criteria. Visual Studio IDE is not free and open source and neither is the older version of .NET framework. Launch a .NET core application inside visual studio code. Even that comes with a warning saying you can only use the debugger within certain limited situations.
- ToFab123 6y ago
  Service Fabric is open source. SF is basically what powers Azure and tons of other MS cloud based software like sql azure https://github.com/Azure/service-fabric https://github.com/Azure/service-fabric
- Conan_Kudo 6y ago
  I would actually go so far as to say it is an unethical strategy. It's just a popular one. And a very successful one.
dependenttypes 6y ago
The difference is that Electronic arts publishes things that I might actually use, unlike Azure.
- chii 6y ago
  there are plenty of use cases for the azure stuff, even if you personally don't see a use for it.
- Angostura 6y ago
  Are we on Reddit?
malux85 6y ago
Typical Azure response, this is such a summary of azure it’s funny. Chose some metric where you look good and tout that as the deciding factor. Ignore the fact that the metric is irrelevant, and hope that your reductive (and incorrect) summary gains momentum among the masses who are too intellectually lazy to think for themselves and just want a number to trumpet on the front lines Also ignore the fact that your incorrect summary only reveals how much you truly have misunderstood the question and discussion. You work at azure and your contact email is gmail? Why not a Microsoft product? I’ll tell you why : Microsoft is garbage and you know it, that’s why you use gmail.
- meddlepal 6y ago
  > Microsoft is garbage and you know it, that’s why you use gmail. Hot take. How about simply that they have had their email address a lot longer than they've worked at Microsoft?
  - saberdancer 6y ago
    Some even prefer to use a different email service other than the one run by their employer.
  - severino 6y ago
    Not OP, but hotmail predates gmail.
    - meddlepal 6y ago
      Sure, but that doesn't mean anything in this case.
- jzebedee 6y ago
  Did someone forget? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html I'm really not sure where your vitriol for Azure is coming from. If you want to respond to the point, you should -- if you can avoid going off because you have an axe to grind with Microsoft. And the point about emails is a real head-scratcher. Most of us have been online for a long, long time. I expect there are quite a few people working at Big X with a @hotmail, @gmail, @yahoo, hell, @sbcglobal personal email that they use for the rest of their online life.
severino 6y ago
So it's quantity v. quality. As others said, don't pretend to make people believe you have 1.800 repos worth of useful software. EA may have only 27, but at least it's something you may benefit from even if you're not a customer of theirs.
- alexeldeib 6y ago
  I don’t pretend that 1.8k are super useful, but I’m still measuring apples to apples. I looked at the EA repos before posting. There’s a few C++ libs, some forks of Kubernetes components that don’t seem active, and some other misc stuff. It’s meaningful, sure, but I think MS does provide plenty of high quality code to close the difference.
brylie 6y ago
Honest question, approximately what percentage of those repositories are original works and what percentage are forks?

It's mostly templates, SDKs, etc. MS is open-sourcing the pieces of cheese that lead to their proprietary cloud-shaped trap. I don't think they've open-sourced anything related to Azure itself (i.e. if I wanted to run my own Azure-like cloud). I'm not saying it's a bad or even unethical strategy. I'm just saying that MS is not, remotely, an open-source company.

colinmcdonald22 6y ago
https://github.com/Microsoft/service-fabric https://github.com/Microsoft/service-fabric
nine_k 6y ago
How about VSCode and .Net Core?
- mcny 6y ago
  I work with asp.net web api and angular (typescript) but I think the point stands. > Which of their former good selling products has microsoft open sourced? Neither Visual Studio Code nor .NET core fits this criteria. Visual Studio IDE is not free and open source and neither is the older version of .NET framework. Launch a .NET core application inside visual studio code. Even that comes with a warning saying you can only use the debugger within certain limited situations.
ToFab123 6y ago
Service Fabric is open source. SF is basically what powers Azure and tons of other MS cloud based software like sql azure https://github.com/Azure/service-fabric https://github.com/Azure/service-fabric
Conan_Kudo 6y ago
I would actually go so far as to say it is an unethical strategy. It's just a popular one. And a very successful one.

dependenttypes 6y ago

The difference is that Electronic arts publishes things that I might actually use, unlike Azure.

chii 6y ago
there are plenty of use cases for the azure stuff, even if you personally don't see a use for it.
Angostura 6y ago
Are we on Reddit?

malux85 6y ago

Typical Azure response, this is such a summary of azure it’s funny. Chose some metric where you look good and tout that as the deciding factor. Ignore the fact that the metric is irrelevant, and hope that your reductive (and incorrect) summary gains momentum among the masses who are too intellectually lazy to think for themselves and just want a number to trumpet on the front lines Also ignore the fact that your incorrect summary only reveals how much you truly have misunderstood the question and discussion. You work at azure and your contact email is gmail? Why not a Microsoft product? I’ll tell you why : Microsoft is garbage and you know it, that’s why you use gmail.

meddlepal 6y ago
> Microsoft is garbage and you know it, that’s why you use gmail. Hot take. How about simply that they have had their email address a lot longer than they've worked at Microsoft?
- saberdancer 6y ago
  Some even prefer to use a different email service other than the one run by their employer.
- severino 6y ago
  Not OP, but hotmail predates gmail.
  - meddlepal 6y ago
    Sure, but that doesn't mean anything in this case.
jzebedee 6y ago
Did someone forget? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html I'm really not sure where your vitriol for Azure is coming from. If you want to respond to the point, you should -- if you can avoid going off because you have an axe to grind with Microsoft. And the point about emails is a real head-scratcher. Most of us have been online for a long, long time. I expect there are quite a few people working at Big X with a @hotmail, @gmail, @yahoo, hell, @sbcglobal personal email that they use for the rest of their online life.

severino 6y ago

So it's quantity v. quality. As others said, don't pretend to make people believe you have 1.800 repos worth of useful software. EA may have only 27, but at least it's something you may benefit from even if you're not a customer of theirs.

alexeldeib 6y ago
I don’t pretend that 1.8k are super useful, but I’m still measuring apples to apples. I looked at the EA repos before posting. There’s a few C++ libs, some forks of Kubernetes components that don’t seem active, and some other misc stuff. It’s meaningful, sure, but I think MS does provide plenty of high quality code to close the difference.

brylie 6y ago

Honest question, approximately what percentage of those repositories are original works and what percentage are forks?