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The whole escape was likely coordinated by Ghosn's wife who it seems passed the Jeff Bezos test. Commenting on what he looked for in a wife, Bezos once said in
by DevX101 6y ago
The whole escape was likely coordinated by Ghosn's wife who it seems passed the Jeff Bezos test.
Commenting on what he looked for in a wife, Bezos once said in an interview "The number one criterion was that I wanted a woman who could get me out of a Third World prison"
- afwaller 6y agoJapan is a first world country.
- elliekelly 6y agoAll the more impressive!
- speg 6y agoIf they’re willing to get him out of a third world country, surely they’d be willing to do the same from a first world country.
- pnw_hazor 6y agoThe Japanese criminal justice system is not up to first world standards. "The litany of violations that commonly take place while the detainee is in daiyou kangoku would befit places such as China, Turkey, or the Israeli occupied West Bank. Detainees are subject to extremely long (e.g. over twelve hours) questioning sessions, designed to wear them down. Sleep deprivation is common, as is the deprivation of adequate food, and suspects are often made to stand in uncomfortable positions for hours on end. Intimidation is the order of the day, with techniques such as repeated screaming in the detainee’s ears, and, though rarer, beatings have also been known to take place." https://www.counterpunch.org/2014/06/02/japans-authoritarian-criminal-justice-system/ https://www.counterpunch.org/2014/06/02/japans-authoritarian...
- popcorncolonel 6y agoAh our favorite third world countries, like China, Japan, and Israel.
- braythwayt 6y agoHello, have you met the US Criminal Justice System? No, not that one. I mean the system used for the poor and/or coloured and/or from a "shithole country." The one that cages children and has decided that prisoners do not need soap or disinfectant in the middle of a deadly pandemic. The one that shoots first and asks questions later. The one that systemically plants evidence. The one that takes performs "parallel construction" to deceive the courts about the legality of its investigations. The one that had an entire building devoted to making interogatees "disappear." I could go on, but I think I've made my point. If Japan is not up to "first-world standards," I have difficulty accepting that the US is up to first-world standards, whatever they may be.
- snazz 6y agoThe US criminal justice system is certainly not up to snuff for a first-world country either.
- kindatrue 6y agoFor the future, you may want to cite this link: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/08/thirty-two-stories-jeffrey-epstein-prison-death/596029/ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/08/thirty-two... It's not about Jeffrey Epstein, but 32 interesting deaths in US prisons. The one about guards burning a man to death with hot water was... unique.
- pnw_hazor 6y agoJapan's correctional system is considered safer than many others but it certainly has it problems. Generally they are more like strict military prisons with highly strict and specific rules and regimentation. Punishment for violating rules may include loss of privileges and often having to maintain stress positions (aka torture) for hours across multiple days. Reform is underway but as like as everywhere else it is making slow progress. https://www.prison-insider.com/countryprofile/prisonsinjapan?s=securite-ordre-et-discipline#securite-ordre-et-discipline https://www.prison-insider.com/countryprofile/prisonsinjapan...
- maallooc 6y ago
- bouncycastle 6y agoWith a 99% conviction rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_rate Edit: So I guess extraditing them would basically guarantee conviction.
- programmertote 6y agoCould you explain what the Jeff Bezos test mean? I am trying to understand your sentence "The whole escape was likely coordinated by Ghosn's wife who it seems passed the Jeff Bezos test."
- DevX101 6y agoHere's the original interview [1]. He was trying to explain that he was looking for a wife that was resourceful. But since explaining what he meant by 'resourceful' was difficult he gave the example that his ideal wife should be able to get him out of prison in another country. [1] https://www.wired.com/1999/03/bezos-3/ https://www.wired.com/1999/03/bezos-3/
- Cyph0n 6y agoInteresting stuff, thanks for linking!
- whyhow 6y agoAnyone know your typical steps for this process? I guess your first step is to contact your embassy, then look for a local lawyer, then what comes next?
- JshWright 6y agoThat's the point of the test... There is no one guaranteed path. Each situation will be different in a thousand different ways. It requires someone very "resourceful" to be able to navigate and handle all of the unknowns.
- whyhow 6y agoYeah of course, I'm just interested hearing potential paths.
- evgen 6y agoAt that level you are going to start with agencies that have an existing K&R team, potentially from your insurance underwriter (because if you are the sort of person who needs to consider or plan for this threat then you also have insurance for it.) The steps past that point are beyond me but probably involve both political contacts as well as consultants/contractors with specialized skills -- I would expect that one of your various law firms is probably going to be your primary interface.
- C1sc0cat 6y agoPossibly people are missing the fact that his wife is Lebanese things don't work quite the same there :-) I used to work for a Lebanese company in London and all the Lebanese directors had very nice cars but the special ones with stepped on engines and body Armor. They also manged to get a kidnap victim back just like that at the Hight of the civil war I suspect money changed hands but also "we know where you live where your parents live" might have played a part.
- anonu 6y agoWhat kind of company did you work for?
- balls187 6y ago> passed the Jeff Bezos test. In modern day parlance this is known as "Ride or Die."
- dontbenebby 6y agoPeople saying they want a "partner in crime" on dating apps is a cliché for a reason ;-)
- ardit33 6y agoit is a very american thing... perhaps some kind of romanticization from the the Bonnie and Clyde era
- epicureanideal 6y agoAlso the culture has a huge amount of influence from mass incarceration of citizens, and tons of media portraying police, lawyers, courts, crime, etc.
- kyuudou 6y ago"down ass bitch" is another one I've heard
- mongol 6y agoReminds me about the parents who could get their stupid daughter out of ISIS territory in Syria.