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I don't much care about these changes one way or another, but it would be very sad if they went away. For better or worse, they created far and away the best fi

I don't much care about these changes one way or another, but it would be very sad if they went away. For better or worse, they created far and away the best fitness platform for cyclists, if only because of the mindshare and network effects. Their analyses are also quite good. It would be a real pity if they went away, and I hope they stay solvent. I've been a paying subscriber since I first joined in Aug 2018 and am happy to support it.

winkeyless 6y ago
As a cyclist and DAU I haven’t been a paying user for the past few years. Just subscribed today. This application costs a lot to run and it’s been mostly ads-free unlike Instagram. Pay if you can. Nothing comes free.
nradov 6y ago
Strava does pretty well as a social network. But their analytics are generally weaker than TrainingPeaks or Garmin Connect.
- avs733 6y ago
  I hope this at least solves the people 'gps bombing' certain popular segments with fake times. I use all three of those apps you mentioned and generally here is how I frame them: TrainingPeaks - analytics, record keeping, tracking improvement, interacting with my running coach, planning build up to events, making notes to self about training. (Training and planning) Garmin Connect - where I record, check data, and handle posting. Since buying a watch, four button clicks on my wrist has music playing and my scheduled workout timed out and just beeps at me when I need to speed up / slowdown. It probably gets me out the door 5 minutes faster than using my phone and strava which isn't nothing (Tracking). Strava - fun way for me to interact with others. Minimal useful information, unless I'm being silly competitive against myself or others. (read: social) It takes zero effort to have Garmin and my watch sync with both TP and GC, while if I record on Strava on my phone I have to download a file and upload it to the other two. the GC push to strava has significantly reduced my engagement with strava from once a day to once or twice a week where I bulk comment / thumbs up others workouts. If I didn't have running friends who were in other states or training peaks had social elements I would probably slowly fade to zero usage on Strava.
  - nradov 6y ago
    Many of the popular Strava segments are a total joke, full of obvious fakes or mistakes. They claim to automatically flag suspicious activities but I still see so many that can't possibly be correct. I doubt Strava is even using any ML technology to catch those.
    - pluies 6y ago
      You don't even need ML for that - if someone ran a segment twice as fast as the olympic record for that distance, it's pretty obviously wrong... And yet, that happens pretty regularly for segments I look at.

winkeyless 6y ago

As a cyclist and DAU I haven’t been a paying user for the past few years. Just subscribed today. This application costs a lot to run and it’s been mostly ads-free unlike Instagram. Pay if you can. Nothing comes free.

nradov 6y ago

Strava does pretty well as a social network. But their analytics are generally weaker than TrainingPeaks or Garmin Connect.

avs733 6y ago
I hope this at least solves the people 'gps bombing' certain popular segments with fake times. I use all three of those apps you mentioned and generally here is how I frame them: TrainingPeaks - analytics, record keeping, tracking improvement, interacting with my running coach, planning build up to events, making notes to self about training. (Training and planning) Garmin Connect - where I record, check data, and handle posting. Since buying a watch, four button clicks on my wrist has music playing and my scheduled workout timed out and just beeps at me when I need to speed up / slowdown. It probably gets me out the door 5 minutes faster than using my phone and strava which isn't nothing (Tracking). Strava - fun way for me to interact with others. Minimal useful information, unless I'm being silly competitive against myself or others. (read: social) It takes zero effort to have Garmin and my watch sync with both TP and GC, while if I record on Strava on my phone I have to download a file and upload it to the other two. the GC push to strava has significantly reduced my engagement with strava from once a day to once or twice a week where I bulk comment / thumbs up others workouts. If I didn't have running friends who were in other states or training peaks had social elements I would probably slowly fade to zero usage on Strava.
- nradov 6y ago
  Many of the popular Strava segments are a total joke, full of obvious fakes or mistakes. They claim to automatically flag suspicious activities but I still see so many that can't possibly be correct. I doubt Strava is even using any ML technology to catch those.
  - pluies 6y ago
    You don't even need ML for that - if someone ran a segment twice as fast as the olympic record for that distance, it's pretty obviously wrong... And yet, that happens pretty regularly for segments I look at.