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> It's easy to say shut everything down when you have a comfortable wfh tech job and zoom meetings in underwear. Peasants need to make money and feed kids too.

> It's easy to say shut everything down when you have a comfortable wfh tech job and zoom meetings in underwear. Peasants need to make money and feed kids too. I think you’ve nailed it. The virtuous and vocal “stay home save lives” crowd invariably has almost no skin in the game. They get their food delivered to them (sucks for those folks) and their livelihood is secured. The rest of us are left to fend for ourselves.

Talanes 6y ago
There is data to the contrary. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/05/class-war-over-social-distancing/611731/ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/05/class-war-...
- 3fe9a03ccd14ca5 6y ago
  So we’re to believe it’s actually reversy, and those suffering financial damage from the shutdown actually love it, and the unfortunate WFH cohort are begging to shove their PJs back into the closet and drudge back to the office?
  - Talanes 6y ago
    For the time being, many of those worst off are receiving a raise by being unemployed, and still have confidence that their jobs will be there when things begin to recover. And why would you assume it's people trying to go back to the office, have you not watched any of the people protesting the lockdown? They want OTHER people back at work so they can consume things.
  - d3ad1ysp0rk 6y ago
    My wife and I have a two year old business (https://hostelofmaine.com https://hostelofmaine.com) that will likely go under if stay at home orders & shut downs are not lifted in the near future. That said, I am 100% in favor of continuing to disallow discretionary travel at this time. I would rather go bankrupt and start over (no rich family if you're wondering) than be responsible for an outbreak in our community. Of course we need to open, but right now (May) is not that time. If I had to guess (which is irrelevant to a data driven approach) I would assume late June or July would be safer.
  - SpicyLemonZest 6y ago
    Large majorities of both cohorts love the shutdown, because they're scared and want to hide inside until it's safe. We have to argue against the shutdowns on those grounds, not invent a class war that isn't happening.
tinus_hn 6y ago
It’s the ultimate slacktivism. Many people are used to staying home and doing nothing all day, but now the situation has changed and suddenly their lifestyle is a virtue, they can feel like heroes while people who want to work can be called irresponsible. It’s the same people who think they can help poor people by clicking ‘Like’ on a Facebook post. Things are going to turn around again of course. Sooner or later reality is going to hit when the handouts stop and the food supply dries up. Humanity isn’t going to survive by doing nothing and the people who put in the work and take the risks now have to be incentivized or they may quit working as well.

Talanes 6y ago

There is data to the contrary. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/05/class-war-over-social-distancing/611731/ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/05/class-war-...

3fe9a03ccd14ca5 6y ago
So we’re to believe it’s actually reversy, and those suffering financial damage from the shutdown actually love it, and the unfortunate WFH cohort are begging to shove their PJs back into the closet and drudge back to the office?
- Talanes 6y ago
  For the time being, many of those worst off are receiving a raise by being unemployed, and still have confidence that their jobs will be there when things begin to recover. And why would you assume it's people trying to go back to the office, have you not watched any of the people protesting the lockdown? They want OTHER people back at work so they can consume things.
- d3ad1ysp0rk 6y ago
  My wife and I have a two year old business (https://hostelofmaine.com https://hostelofmaine.com) that will likely go under if stay at home orders & shut downs are not lifted in the near future. That said, I am 100% in favor of continuing to disallow discretionary travel at this time. I would rather go bankrupt and start over (no rich family if you're wondering) than be responsible for an outbreak in our community. Of course we need to open, but right now (May) is not that time. If I had to guess (which is irrelevant to a data driven approach) I would assume late June or July would be safer.
- SpicyLemonZest 6y ago
  Large majorities of both cohorts love the shutdown, because they're scared and want to hide inside until it's safe. We have to argue against the shutdowns on those grounds, not invent a class war that isn't happening.

tinus_hn 6y ago

It’s the ultimate slacktivism. Many people are used to staying home and doing nothing all day, but now the situation has changed and suddenly their lifestyle is a virtue, they can feel like heroes while people who want to work can be called irresponsible. It’s the same people who think they can help poor people by clicking ‘Like’ on a Facebook post. Things are going to turn around again of course. Sooner or later reality is going to hit when the handouts stop and the food supply dries up. Humanity isn’t going to survive by doing nothing and the people who put in the work and take the risks now have to be incentivized or they may quit working as well.