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I think there's a chance this can happen when AV1 starts to gain adoption. Webp had a chance - you can have well encoded, looping video in a .webp container tha
by jjcm 6y ago
I think there's a chance this can happen when AV1 starts to gain adoption. Webp had a chance - you can have well encoded, looping video in a .webp container that operates exactly like an image. The issue was lack of adoption - it never took hold due to Apple not adopting it in their ecosystem. AV1 has support from every major player in tech, and .avif images support gif functionality just fine.
Until that happens though, I just don't see .gifs ever losing traction. I still need to upload gifs to slack if I want autoplaying/looping behavior without user interaction, I still need to embed .gifs in my confluence pages, and when documenting user interactions in github readmes gifs are still king.
FWIW I've made a small user script for encoding gifs in a two pass approach (as most gif encoders I've seen do a pretty shit job). If anyone wants it here's the script: http://files.jjcm.org/gif.sh http://files.jjcm.org/gif.sh
(to use, just type `./gif.sh -s=SIZE -f=FPS input.mp4 output.gif`)
- IshKebab 6y agoYes I think the fact that GitHub doesn't support videos at all shows how far away a gif-free world is.
- londons_explore 6y agoAV1 (AVIF) is going to hit the same lack of adoption. Apple is already steaming ahead with HEIF files, while Google is stalling implementing them, and vice versa.
- whywhywhywhy 6y ago>The issue was lack of adoption - it never took hold due to Apple not adopting it in their ecosystem It's not just Apple, webp files can't even be opened by Photoshop. You're basically making proprietary Chrome image files if you actually use that format.
- ryukafalz 6y agoEhh... Firefox can open them just fine, as can GIMP, as can (apparently) my OS's image thumbnailer. (Though oddly enough not my OS's image viewer.) Support isn't universal, but it's certainly not a proprietary Chrome format.
- whywhywhywhy 6y agoAlmost every computing app in the world supports JPG,PNG and GIF. Together we could only name 3 apps that can open webp and only one of those is an editor. Shaking my head as to why this format has any support at all.
- Grue3 6y agoGIMP is supported on every practically usable operating system and can edit animated webp just as well as gifs.
- FalconSensei 6y agoBut most people use photoshop already
- Grue3 6y agoMost people? Given how much it costs? I doubt it, or Adobe would be the company with the highest valuation in the world.
- whywhywhywhy 6y agoDoesn't matter how many platforms it's on it's still one app. Until webp works everywhere then the web shouldn't be polluted with this proprietary Google Chrome image format.
- eitland 6y agoWhy is this?
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- blihp 6y agoI suspect any future attempt/format may have a similar problem. Has anything changed re: Apple preferring to stick with MPEG LA endorsed formats?
- garaetjjte 6y ago>AV1 I often trip on that, was similarity with AVI accidental or intentional..?
- fomine3 6y agoIt looks like WebP Animation only supports I-frame like GIF Animation. I-frame only video should not be efficient so not suitable for video, looks better to just use VP9. (maybe good for icons)
- egfx 6y ago> I-frame like GIF Animation What does that mean?
- egfx 6y agoActually webp is widely adopted but you may not know it. For example giphy.com encodes to webp but they’re renamed to .gif files.