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What if they are both right? Facebook model is phenomenally successful, clearly Zuckerberg must be right. 4chan model is phenomenally successful, clearly Pool

What if they are both right? Facebook model is phenomenally successful, clearly Zuckerberg must be right. 4chan model is phenomenally successful, clearly Poole must be right. The only issue I see here is our polarizing attitude and insistence that one must be better than the other. It's not a zero sum game. We have both because they target different, non-overlapping scenarios and we have hundreds of other, smaller communities, each with different rules. We don't discuss it when people who like bitter chocolate claim that those who like sweet chocolate are "totally wrong". I think we have enough space on our servers for both Facebook and 4chan.

noibl 16y ago
Only one of those people is making moral judgements against people who use pseudonyms ("an example of a lack of integrity") and making phenomenal amounts of money out of marginalising the practice.
- joe_the_user 16y ago
  Facebook hasn't marginalized the practice terribly much - at least half my FB friends are also using aliases.
  - Raphael_Amiard 16y ago
    You can use alias, but the friction to do so, and also to eventually change alias, is considerably higher than on most sites. All in all, you are not supposed to do that on facebook, even if plenty of people do it, and that does make quite a difference.
ddol 16y ago
"Non-overlapping"? 25.822 * 10^-6 of Facebook users (1 in ~43,000) use canv.as[1] [1] https://www.facebook.com/apps/application.php?id=176245562391022 https://www.facebook.com/apps/application.php?id=17624556239...
- burgerbrain 16y ago
  canvas is hardly what Poole is famous for.
chalst 16y ago
What if they are both right? Well, Zuckerberg's position seems to be everyone should have one online identity that is visibly anchored offline, and is used in all online communication. It doesn't allow a lot of room for Poole's model.
danssig 16y ago
>Facebook model is phenomenally successful, clearly Zuckerberg must be right. That's quite a jump. Couldn't it also be that Zuckerberg is very good at marketing and taking advantage of being out front? Why would you assume his privacy model is the reason Facebook got big? It's my impression that Facebook got big inspite of it which tells me he isn't right at all. He's just not wrong enough to overcome the perceived value of using his site.

noibl 16y ago

Only one of those people is making moral judgements against people who use pseudonyms ("an example of a lack of integrity") and making phenomenal amounts of money out of marginalising the practice.

joe_the_user 16y ago
Facebook hasn't marginalized the practice terribly much - at least half my FB friends are also using aliases.
- Raphael_Amiard 16y ago
  You can use alias, but the friction to do so, and also to eventually change alias, is considerably higher than on most sites. All in all, you are not supposed to do that on facebook, even if plenty of people do it, and that does make quite a difference.

ddol 16y ago

"Non-overlapping"? 25.822 * 10^-6 of Facebook users (1 in ~43,000) use canv.as[1] [1] https://www.facebook.com/apps/application.php?id=176245562391022 https://www.facebook.com/apps/application.php?id=17624556239...

burgerbrain 16y ago
canvas is hardly what Poole is famous for.

chalst 16y ago

What if they are both right? Well, Zuckerberg's position seems to be everyone should have one online identity that is visibly anchored offline, and is used in all online communication. It doesn't allow a lot of room for Poole's model.

danssig 16y ago

>Facebook model is phenomenally successful, clearly Zuckerberg must be right. That's quite a jump. Couldn't it also be that Zuckerberg is very good at marketing and taking advantage of being out front? Why would you assume his privacy model is the reason Facebook got big? It's my impression that Facebook got big inspite of it which tells me he isn't right at all. He's just not wrong enough to overcome the perceived value of using his site.