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It's not 'tamed'. China stopped testing ages ago and has censored anyone questioning the current government's narrative (and has arrested doctors, medical prof

It's not 'tamed'. China stopped testing ages ago and has censored anyone questioning the current government's narrative (and has arrested doctors, medical professionals, and random people on WeChat). This is one of the problems with comparing Covid statistics between countries. The US, for instance, counts a death as 'Covid' if they died of some other cause, but had Covid symptoms. In other countries, these aren't counted. it's not just Covid stats where this is a problem. Crime stats are calculated in completely different ways in different countries and used as ammo in political discussions. The US has been continuing to test, so our numbers are going to go up as more cases are detected. Countries like Iran, China, Vietnam, and Mexico aren't really doing any sort of testing besides spot checking. These numbers are being used to politically crucify the current administration, when it's a completely disingenuous comparison. On top of all of this, the Covid death rate per-capita of the US is one of the lowest in the world. Too many people don't understand why you can't directly compare a country like South Korea (population: 50 million) and the US (population 350 million). Here is a good link from Johns Hopkins: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality The US is at the low end of Covid death rates. I don't trust Iran on this chart, because it's already pretty well known they have been lying about their numbers.

pinkfoot 6y ago
Absolutely no mention of Florida hiding deaths for political reasons. https://www.palmbeachpost.com/opinion/20200513/coronavirus-florida-editorial-gov-desantis-still-hiding-crucial-data-on-covid-19-deaths-from-public https://www.palmbeachpost.com/opinion/20200513/coronavirus-f...
- sacks2k 6y ago
  They mention nursing homes in this article. If this is the case, they should be adding these deaths to the numbers. In New York City, for instance, people in nursing homes were forced to go back to the nursing home instead of to a hospital if found to have covid-19. This contributed to the spread early on and a high infection rate (and death rate) in nursing homes. We shouldn't allow a complete failure like this to happen in another s tate.
oefrha 6y ago
> China stopped testing ages ago You seem to be pulling this out of your ar*e, since it is inconsistent with all U.S. reporting I’ve seen as well as second hand knowledge from acquaintances in China (in and out of Wuhan/Hubei), including medical professionals. According to aforementioned sources, tests are administered for anyone who either show any symptom or are hospitalized for any reason. Some companies apparently also require testing — which is widely available now — before resuming work (reported by NYT[1], haven’t been able to confirm this myself). Recently a new cluster was discovered in Wuhan, and now they’re planning to test all 11 million residents.[1] I checked with two acquaintances in Wuhan (only got two, so unfortunately can’t provide a fuller picture), and this is apparently already underway, with one of them tested yesterday and one scheduled for tomorrow. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/14/world/asia/coronavirus-testing-china-wuhan.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/14/world/asia/coronavirus-te...
- sacks2k 6y ago
  "You seem to be pulling this out of your ar*e, since it is inconsistent with all U.S. reporting" China had no new Coronavirus cases for an entire month and even before this, it was very few. With its population density, number of people, and how fast the virus spreads, this is scientifically impossible. Either nobody is being tested during this time, the tests aren't accurate, or the numbers are a complete lie. All are just as bad and don't prove that China has anything 'tamed'. The article you linked to was from yesterday. They have only just started announcing new testing again because of the bad global press and now the numbers are increasing again. I would also look at your sources. Many US news sites have large funding from the Chinese government. Hell, the WHO won't allow Taiwan at the assembly and actively ignored them when they were contacted about the virus in December...which would have saved many lives and prevented the potential global disaster we now have today.
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pinkfoot 6y ago

Absolutely no mention of Florida hiding deaths for political reasons. https://www.palmbeachpost.com/opinion/20200513/coronavirus-florida-editorial-gov-desantis-still-hiding-crucial-data-on-covid-19-deaths-from-public https://www.palmbeachpost.com/opinion/20200513/coronavirus-f...

sacks2k 6y ago
They mention nursing homes in this article. If this is the case, they should be adding these deaths to the numbers. In New York City, for instance, people in nursing homes were forced to go back to the nursing home instead of to a hospital if found to have covid-19. This contributed to the spread early on and a high infection rate (and death rate) in nursing homes. We shouldn't allow a complete failure like this to happen in another s tate.

oefrha 6y ago

> China stopped testing ages ago You seem to be pulling this out of your ar*e, since it is inconsistent with all U.S. reporting I’ve seen as well as second hand knowledge from acquaintances in China (in and out of Wuhan/Hubei), including medical professionals. According to aforementioned sources, tests are administered for anyone who either show any symptom or are hospitalized for any reason. Some companies apparently also require testing — which is widely available now — before resuming work (reported by NYT[1], haven’t been able to confirm this myself). Recently a new cluster was discovered in Wuhan, and now they’re planning to test all 11 million residents.[1] I checked with two acquaintances in Wuhan (only got two, so unfortunately can’t provide a fuller picture), and this is apparently already underway, with one of them tested yesterday and one scheduled for tomorrow. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/14/world/asia/coronavirus-testing-china-wuhan.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/14/world/asia/coronavirus-te...

sacks2k 6y ago
"You seem to be pulling this out of your ar*e, since it is inconsistent with all U.S. reporting" China had no new Coronavirus cases for an entire month and even before this, it was very few. With its population density, number of people, and how fast the virus spreads, this is scientifically impossible. Either nobody is being tested during this time, the tests aren't accurate, or the numbers are a complete lie. All are just as bad and don't prove that China has anything 'tamed'. The article you linked to was from yesterday. They have only just started announcing new testing again because of the bad global press and now the numbers are increasing again. I would also look at your sources. Many US news sites have large funding from the Chinese government. Hell, the WHO won't allow Taiwan at the assembly and actively ignored them when they were contacted about the virus in December...which would have saved many lives and prevented the potential global disaster we now have today.
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