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There are a couple of points a) The deal china made with US companies is bring us your technology and we will manufacture for you cheaply. b) Giving technolog

by mempko 6y ago

There are a couple of points a) The deal china made with US companies is bring us your technology and we will manufacture for you cheaply. b) Giving technology as part of a deal and then retroactively calling it stealing is, well, strange. c) America because what it was because it "stole" technology from Europe during the industrial revolution. American companies understood what they were getting into and what the deals were and took them. China didn't force US companies to make those deals.

Icathian 6y ago
You seem to be under the rather odd impression that all of the limitations you agree to when you enter into contract with another entity are supposed to be ignored. Just because you're doing business with someone who has a reputation of breaching faith doesn't mean it's appropriate that they do so, and you certainly don't have to like them for it.
- thoughtstheseus 6y ago
  China actually ranks high in adherence to contracts. It’s what’s not in the contracts that creates problems. The issues are a bit more nuanced. Harris Bricken is a law firm with a great blog on related legal topics.
- mempko 6y ago
  And yet US companies keep going back to China. Most technological invention is paid for by the US government investment. Name any high technology and it's lineage points back to some government grant or purchase agreement. Companies that use these inventions and innovate on top to bring them to market are themselves using technology we paid for. But we don't call that "stealing". Do you think they care that China also gets them? Knowledge should be shared and free anyway.
adventured 6y ago
> America because what it was because it "stole" technology from Europe during the industrial revolution. A falsehood. The US was one of the primary innovators during the industrial revolution, along with Germany, Britain and France. In the oil/mining, steel, railroad/transport, electricity, building, manufacturing, automobile, farming and communication segments the US held its own when it came to invention in the 1870-1930 era. It doesn't take very long to canvas the major industrial segments and point to various large US contributions. The recent claim that the US stole all of its industrial revolution era technology, is an empty defamation that you mostly only see on sites like Reddit as a propaganda angle, and it's always unsupported in argument.
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by mempko 6y ago

Icathian 6y ago

You seem to be under the rather odd impression that all of the limitations you agree to when you enter into contract with another entity are supposed to be ignored. Just because you're doing business with someone who has a reputation of breaching faith doesn't mean it's appropriate that they do so, and you certainly don't have to like them for it.

thoughtstheseus 6y ago
China actually ranks high in adherence to contracts. It’s what’s not in the contracts that creates problems. The issues are a bit more nuanced. Harris Bricken is a law firm with a great blog on related legal topics.
mempko 6y ago
And yet US companies keep going back to China. Most technological invention is paid for by the US government investment. Name any high technology and it's lineage points back to some government grant or purchase agreement. Companies that use these inventions and innovate on top to bring them to market are themselves using technology we paid for. But we don't call that "stealing". Do you think they care that China also gets them? Knowledge should be shared and free anyway.

adventured 6y ago

> America because what it was because it "stole" technology from Europe during the industrial revolution. A falsehood. The US was one of the primary innovators during the industrial revolution, along with Germany, Britain and France. In the oil/mining, steel, railroad/transport, electricity, building, manufacturing, automobile, farming and communication segments the US held its own when it came to invention in the 1870-1930 era. It doesn't take very long to canvas the major industrial segments and point to various large US contributions. The recent claim that the US stole all of its industrial revolution era technology, is an empty defamation that you mostly only see on sites like Reddit as a propaganda angle, and it's always unsupported in argument.

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