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Error messages in Haiku?

164 points by boredgamer2 6y ago

ecpottinger 6y ago
Clearly someone has not used Beos.
- cosmotic 6y ago
  For reference: https://gist.github.com/benjaminoakes/e58a9ddb0ead8eefbbae40476d87cdf0 https://gist.github.com/benjaminoakes/e58a9ddb0ead8eefbbae40... Coincidentally, the open source remake of BeOS is called Haiku
  - Crestwave 6y ago
    That isn't just a coincidence: https://www.haiku-os.org/about/faq/#where-does-the-name-haiku-come-from https://www.haiku-os.org/about/faq/#where-does-the-name-haik...
divbzero 6y ago
What I’d love to see is this for HTTP — status code haikus
- gorloth 6y ago
  Error 404: The item you are seeking Cannot be found here
  - Pamar 6y ago
    This is particularly good. Apart from the already mentioned seasonal references, a common element is that the thirst two lines should seem completely unrelated and the third one provides synthesis/closure.
- sedatk 6y ago
  Web browser of BeOS showed errors in haikus, which later led its open source successor to be named Haiku OS.
- bussierem 6y ago
  https://github.com/3digitdev/Haiku-TTP-Codes https://github.com/3digitdev/Haiku-TTP-Codes I posted this on HN just a bit ago after seeing this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23173899 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23173899
asdfasgasdgasdg 6y ago
Yesterday it worked / Today it is not working / Windows is like that Reflecting an understanding of the state of computing usability last updated in the early 90s.
- ttctciyf 6y ago
  > ‘I just installed KB4512941 and now Windows Search is broke and Cortana process in taskmanager takes 90% CPU,’ a Windows user wrote on Reddit. > On Twitter, one gamer shared his pain after the update stopped his favourite game from working properly. > ‘Very cool that Skyrim is broken,’ he wrote. > ‘Yet another thing Windows updates has ruined for me. They’ve taken everything from me.’ - https://metro.co.uk/2019/09/09/microsoft-admits-windows-10-bug-causing-problems-around-world-10710714/ https://metro.co.uk/2019/09/09/microsoft-admits-windows-10-b... (Or find your own counterexamples: https://www.google.com/search?q=windows+update+destroyed https://www.google.com/search?q=windows+update+destroyed )
  - Doxin 6y ago
    Windows update is the #1 reason I even ever moved to linux in the first place. - you can run updates whenever you like. no nag screens, no automatic reboots - even when you do run updates you don't usually need to reboot and if you do need to reboot you can choose when to do so yourself. - updates don't install ads or other unwanted crap - (on debian at least) updates don't tend to break anything. - no stalling boot - no stalling shutdown -- I can't count the amount of times I've stayed up late because windows update was preventing shutdown. - still automatic updates if you want with all of these advantages.
    - jimnotgym 6y ago
      Old news
      - Doxin 6y ago
        Yes. so? Just because you and I know that windows update is awful in comparison to package managers on linux doesn't mean everyone does.
hanoz 6y ago
What is it with Haiku? The whole 5-7-5 structure just doesn't ring true with me at all. I mean, I get that it is enigmatic, but it just seems like it's enigmatic purely by virtue of not having any other redeeming quality.
- sedatk 6y ago
  Creativity gets amplified by constraints; Structure is journey
- microtherion 6y ago
  As a (sparsely) published poet, I find most English Haiku not particularly inspiring. There may be an aesthetic quality in Japanese Haiku that does not happen when using other languages, or there just may be a large body of bad Japanese Haiku that non-native speakers never learn about. I believe that the reasons that attract mediocre poets to Haiku are: * They follow a formula that is easy to understand and reproduce. * They are short. So it's reasonably easy to produce something that fits the form, and mediocre poets will leave it at that and not reflect on whether the result is any good. In general, I think beginning poets prefer somewhat more formal poetry, but even a Sonnet takes a bit of effort, and something like a Villanelle or a Sestina gets quite hard already.
- Palomides 6y ago
  a "correct" haiku is supposed to have a conceptual juxtaposition and a traditional seasonal reference in addition to the syllable count after reading a lot of them, I don't think either the poems or the form translates well to english
  - anonymfus 6y ago
    This reminds me how some Russian poets in the year 2000 decided that as a replacement to the elements of Haiku lost during an adaptation they need to create a new dimension to it, and so Huiku (Хуйку, from the Russian swear word хуй (dick)) was made which additionally requires first letters of every line to combine into a Russian cursing. Here is the manifest: https://lleo.me/huiku/manifest.htm https://lleo.me/huiku/manifest.htm It contains an example: Сижу один под кустом, Рот открыл в изумленье. Удивительно лес красив. Which literally translates into "I am sitting alone under a bush, My mouth is open in awe. The forest is amazingly beautiful." and first letters of each line combine into "сру" which means "I am shitting". May be similar idea can be used for English. Sadly English has way less three letter swear words than Russian.
greendave 6y ago
The old Net+ errors[1] are still golden. My favorite: A file that big? It might be very useful But now it is gone. [1] https://8325.org/haiku/ https://8325.org/haiku/
lozf 6y ago
A few times a month/year I'll get some email because the sender made a typo of the domain they wanted. Postmaster notifies them with: your mistake not mine email sent to wrong address retry with more care
prakashk 6y ago
Normal error message in Perl: $ perl -Mstrict -e 'say $x' Global symbol "$x" requires explicit package name (did you forget to declare "my $x"?) at -e line 1. Execution of -e aborted due to compilation errors. With the addition of `Coy` module [1]: $ perl -Mstrict -MCoy -e 'say $x' ----- Gautama dies near a monastry. Two woodpeckers fly over the lake. ----- Or Wunt's commentary... Global symbol "$x" requires explicit package name (did you forget to declare "my $x"?) (Analects of -e: line 1. Execution of -e aborted due to compilation errors.) [1]: https://metacpan.org/pod/Coy https://metacpan.org/pod/Coy
tgdnt 6y ago
It's a shame that the word haiku is now used for any arbitrary collection of 3 lines with none of what would actually make them a haiku.
- traes 6y ago
  And what would that be? They follow the 5-7-5 structure, are you just disappointed by the lack of juxtaposition of something? (Disclaimer: not a poetry buff, just reading other comments)
  - tgdnt 6y ago
    Well, I'm not a poetry buff either, but my superficial understanding is that a haiku is characterized by humour and ambiguity, so that it would leave you contemplating multiple possible senses, perhaps each one funnier or more intriguing than the next. And perhaps there would be some tension in understanding which meaning would be most intended, as it were. "...expressing much and suggesting more in the fewest possible words." (Britannica) I think a lot of contemporary haiku express little and suggest nothing. Nothing wrong with the page or the writing there, I'm only saying that as the word is increasingly used in a more superficial way as I think is the case here, the historical form of poetry known as haiku has no name of its own any more, which becomes a problem especially in the age of search engines where present usage is all that matters. My being grouchy plays a big part here too.
emptybits 6y ago
These are lovely and lighthearted with a 5-7-5 structure, but for anyone interested in how English might actually express the spirit and content and structure of haiku, here's a nice article.[1] Or, of course, WP as a jumping off point.[2] But long live creativity in constrained form, whatever the label! [1] http://britishhaikusociety.org.uk/2011/02/english-haiku-a-composite-view/ http://britishhaikusociety.org.uk/2011/02/english-haiku-a-co... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiku_in_English https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiku_in_English
rexarex 6y ago
Juniper networking equipment has a hidden CLI command that spits out a nerdy or sleep deprived haiku: E.G Juniper> show version and haiku; IS-IS Screams, BGP peer flapping; I want my mommy! TTL down one the end nearer with each hop little packet, poof. Amazing photons Carry our data worldwide Never seem to stop My session is dead: Forgot to commit confirm. Where are my car keys? For some reason, it’s hard to find all of them compiled in one place. I think it changes over time depending on the version of JUNOS and the hardware platform. It was always a little uplifting when you had an incident occurring and you needed a little something—anything—to keep you going (:
gpvos 6y ago
I ate your Web page. Forgive me, it was juicy and tart on my tongue. (MIT 404 error from the early web)
Taniwha 6y ago
EINTR please excuse me what you were doing stops now time for my stuff
wackro 6y ago
Reminds me of The Tao of Programming. https://www.mit.edu/~xela/tao.html https://www.mit.edu/~xela/tao.html Huge pearls of wisdom.
bryanrasmussen 6y ago
The greatest error message in Haiku ever was: I am so sorry. Something struck me in the rear. I just ... wound up ... here. https://avatar.fandom.com/wiki/Transcript:The_Tales_of_Ba_Sing_Se https://avatar.fandom.com/wiki/Transcript:The_Tales_of_Ba_Si...
dragonshed 6y ago
An oldie but goodie > Server is willing > Alas, the file is crafty > It cannot be found

164 points by boredgamer2 6y ago

ecpottinger 6y ago

Clearly someone has not used Beos.

cosmotic 6y ago
For reference: https://gist.github.com/benjaminoakes/e58a9ddb0ead8eefbbae40476d87cdf0 https://gist.github.com/benjaminoakes/e58a9ddb0ead8eefbbae40... Coincidentally, the open source remake of BeOS is called Haiku
- Crestwave 6y ago
  That isn't just a coincidence: https://www.haiku-os.org/about/faq/#where-does-the-name-haiku-come-from https://www.haiku-os.org/about/faq/#where-does-the-name-haik...

divbzero 6y ago

What I’d love to see is this for HTTP — status code haikus

gorloth 6y ago
Error 404: The item you are seeking Cannot be found here
- Pamar 6y ago
  This is particularly good. Apart from the already mentioned seasonal references, a common element is that the thirst two lines should seem completely unrelated and the third one provides synthesis/closure.
sedatk 6y ago
Web browser of BeOS showed errors in haikus, which later led its open source successor to be named Haiku OS.
bussierem 6y ago
https://github.com/3digitdev/Haiku-TTP-Codes https://github.com/3digitdev/Haiku-TTP-Codes I posted this on HN just a bit ago after seeing this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23173899 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23173899

asdfasgasdgasdg 6y ago

Yesterday it worked / Today it is not working / Windows is like that Reflecting an understanding of the state of computing usability last updated in the early 90s.

ttctciyf 6y ago
> ‘I just installed KB4512941 and now Windows Search is broke and Cortana process in taskmanager takes 90% CPU,’ a Windows user wrote on Reddit. > On Twitter, one gamer shared his pain after the update stopped his favourite game from working properly. > ‘Very cool that Skyrim is broken,’ he wrote. > ‘Yet another thing Windows updates has ruined for me. They’ve taken everything from me.’ - https://metro.co.uk/2019/09/09/microsoft-admits-windows-10-bug-causing-problems-around-world-10710714/ https://metro.co.uk/2019/09/09/microsoft-admits-windows-10-b... (Or find your own counterexamples: https://www.google.com/search?q=windows+update+destroyed https://www.google.com/search?q=windows+update+destroyed )
- Doxin 6y ago
  Windows update is the #1 reason I even ever moved to linux in the first place. - you can run updates whenever you like. no nag screens, no automatic reboots - even when you do run updates you don't usually need to reboot and if you do need to reboot you can choose when to do so yourself. - updates don't install ads or other unwanted crap - (on debian at least) updates don't tend to break anything. - no stalling boot - no stalling shutdown -- I can't count the amount of times I've stayed up late because windows update was preventing shutdown. - still automatic updates if you want with all of these advantages.
  - jimnotgym 6y ago
    Old news
    - Doxin 6y ago
      Yes. so? Just because you and I know that windows update is awful in comparison to package managers on linux doesn't mean everyone does.

hanoz 6y ago

What is it with Haiku? The whole 5-7-5 structure just doesn't ring true with me at all. I mean, I get that it is enigmatic, but it just seems like it's enigmatic purely by virtue of not having any other redeeming quality.

sedatk 6y ago
Creativity gets amplified by constraints; Structure is journey
microtherion 6y ago
As a (sparsely) published poet, I find most English Haiku not particularly inspiring. There may be an aesthetic quality in Japanese Haiku that does not happen when using other languages, or there just may be a large body of bad Japanese Haiku that non-native speakers never learn about. I believe that the reasons that attract mediocre poets to Haiku are: * They follow a formula that is easy to understand and reproduce. * They are short. So it's reasonably easy to produce something that fits the form, and mediocre poets will leave it at that and not reflect on whether the result is any good. In general, I think beginning poets prefer somewhat more formal poetry, but even a Sonnet takes a bit of effort, and something like a Villanelle or a Sestina gets quite hard already.
Palomides 6y ago
a "correct" haiku is supposed to have a conceptual juxtaposition and a traditional seasonal reference in addition to the syllable count after reading a lot of them, I don't think either the poems or the form translates well to english
- anonymfus 6y ago
  This reminds me how some Russian poets in the year 2000 decided that as a replacement to the elements of Haiku lost during an adaptation they need to create a new dimension to it, and so Huiku (Хуйку, from the Russian swear word хуй (dick)) was made which additionally requires first letters of every line to combine into a Russian cursing. Here is the manifest: https://lleo.me/huiku/manifest.htm https://lleo.me/huiku/manifest.htm It contains an example: Сижу один под кустом, Рот открыл в изумленье. Удивительно лес красив. Which literally translates into "I am sitting alone under a bush, My mouth is open in awe. The forest is amazingly beautiful." and first letters of each line combine into "сру" which means "I am shitting". May be similar idea can be used for English. Sadly English has way less three letter swear words than Russian.

greendave 6y ago

The old Net+ errors[1] are still golden. My favorite: A file that big? It might be very useful But now it is gone. [1] https://8325.org/haiku/ https://8325.org/haiku/

lozf 6y ago

A few times a month/year I'll get some email because the sender made a typo of the domain they wanted. Postmaster notifies them with: your mistake not mine email sent to wrong address retry with more care

prakashk 6y ago

Normal error message in Perl: $ perl -Mstrict -e 'say $x' Global symbol "$x" requires explicit package name (did you forget to declare "my $x"?) at -e line 1. Execution of -e aborted due to compilation errors. With the addition of `Coy` module [1]: $ perl -Mstrict -MCoy -e 'say $x' ----- Gautama dies near a monastry. Two woodpeckers fly over the lake. ----- Or Wunt's commentary... Global symbol "$x" requires explicit package name (did you forget to declare "my $x"?) (Analects of -e: line 1. Execution of -e aborted due to compilation errors.) [1]: https://metacpan.org/pod/Coy https://metacpan.org/pod/Coy

tgdnt 6y ago

It's a shame that the word haiku is now used for any arbitrary collection of 3 lines with none of what would actually make them a haiku.

traes 6y ago
And what would that be? They follow the 5-7-5 structure, are you just disappointed by the lack of juxtaposition of something? (Disclaimer: not a poetry buff, just reading other comments)
- tgdnt 6y ago
  Well, I'm not a poetry buff either, but my superficial understanding is that a haiku is characterized by humour and ambiguity, so that it would leave you contemplating multiple possible senses, perhaps each one funnier or more intriguing than the next. And perhaps there would be some tension in understanding which meaning would be most intended, as it were. "...expressing much and suggesting more in the fewest possible words." (Britannica) I think a lot of contemporary haiku express little and suggest nothing. Nothing wrong with the page or the writing there, I'm only saying that as the word is increasingly used in a more superficial way as I think is the case here, the historical form of poetry known as haiku has no name of its own any more, which becomes a problem especially in the age of search engines where present usage is all that matters. My being grouchy plays a big part here too.

emptybits 6y ago

These are lovely and lighthearted with a 5-7-5 structure, but for anyone interested in how English might actually express the spirit and content and structure of haiku, here's a nice article.[1] Or, of course, WP as a jumping off point.[2] But long live creativity in constrained form, whatever the label! [1] http://britishhaikusociety.org.uk/2011/02/english-haiku-a-composite-view/ http://britishhaikusociety.org.uk/2011/02/english-haiku-a-co... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiku_in_English https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiku_in_English

rexarex 6y ago

Juniper networking equipment has a hidden CLI command that spits out a nerdy or sleep deprived haiku: E.G Juniper> show version and haiku; IS-IS Screams, BGP peer flapping; I want my mommy! TTL down one the end nearer with each hop little packet, poof. Amazing photons Carry our data worldwide Never seem to stop My session is dead: Forgot to commit confirm. Where are my car keys? For some reason, it’s hard to find all of them compiled in one place. I think it changes over time depending on the version of JUNOS and the hardware platform. It was always a little uplifting when you had an incident occurring and you needed a little something—anything—to keep you going (:

gpvos 6y ago

I ate your Web page. Forgive me, it was juicy and tart on my tongue. (MIT 404 error from the early web)

Taniwha 6y ago

EINTR please excuse me what you were doing stops now time for my stuff

wackro 6y ago

Reminds me of The Tao of Programming. https://www.mit.edu/~xela/tao.html https://www.mit.edu/~xela/tao.html Huge pearls of wisdom.

bryanrasmussen 6y ago

The greatest error message in Haiku ever was: I am so sorry. Something struck me in the rear. I just ... wound up ... here. https://avatar.fandom.com/wiki/Transcript:The_Tales_of_Ba_Sing_Se https://avatar.fandom.com/wiki/Transcript:The_Tales_of_Ba_Si...

dragonshed 6y ago

An oldie but goodie > Server is willing > Alas, the file is crafty > It cannot be found