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I have never used this but something better for GUI would be great even if commercial; what I miss (as a native GUI dev) with all(? if you know any besides fram

I have never used this but something better for GUI would be great even if commercial; what I miss (as a native GUI dev) with all(? if you know any besides framework7 which is basically only mobile) of these html/css frameworks is that there is no equivalent of a control library that can be rapidly used without using (bucketloads) of css. When you browse the examples you see that most have some desktop controls like menus etc; I don't want to 'make' those; I just want to start with a theme (Material) and (as backend dev) never touch css while still being able to make something that looks ok and works like an actual GUI app instead of a web page. Like I can (and do) do in native tech all the time. Is there anything with Electron-ish apps (Sciter is preferable it seems as it has less bloat)? I searched for instance for a desktop theme for Electron and only found a mac os x theme which indeed works like described above but I don't want everything to look like mac os x or windows or linux or ios or android; either it should look native-ish (nothing beats native though) on the platform it runs on , or it should look like something completely 'new'.

realharo 6y ago
Another discussion from today (React Native Windows / Mac) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23160075 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23160075 Not web/HTML though, uses native widgets directly (mostly).
- tluyben2 6y ago
  Yeah, I'm using RN + Flutter and it's ok. But I'm not sure why there are more prepackaged web-based solutions. I might/seem to be alone in that wish, so i'll use what works in anger.
- still_grokking 6y ago
  >I have never used this but something better for GUI would be great even if commercial; what I miss (as a native GUI dev) with all(? if you know any besides framework7 which is basically only mobile) of these html/css frameworks is that there is no equivalent of a control library that can be rapidly used without using (bucketloads) of css. When you browse the examples you see that most have some desktop controls like menus etc; I don't want to 'make' those; I just want to start with a theme (Material) and (as backend dev) never touch css while still being able to make something that looks ok and works like an actual GUI app instead of a web page. Like I can (and do) do in native tech all the time. In this regard even Visual Basic was far ahead of most of today's client tech. HTML/CSS/JS are not even close to be called a serious GUI stack for applications despite they are used for that as the Web ate the world.

realharo 6y ago

Another discussion from today (React Native Windows / Mac) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23160075 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23160075 Not web/HTML though, uses native widgets directly (mostly).

tluyben2 6y ago
Yeah, I'm using RN + Flutter and it's ok. But I'm not sure why there are more prepackaged web-based solutions. I might/seem to be alone in that wish, so i'll use what works in anger.
still_grokking 6y ago
>I have never used this but something better for GUI would be great even if commercial; what I miss (as a native GUI dev) with all(? if you know any besides framework7 which is basically only mobile) of these html/css frameworks is that there is no equivalent of a control library that can be rapidly used without using (bucketloads) of css. When you browse the examples you see that most have some desktop controls like menus etc; I don't want to 'make' those; I just want to start with a theme (Material) and (as backend dev) never touch css while still being able to make something that looks ok and works like an actual GUI app instead of a web page. Like I can (and do) do in native tech all the time. In this regard even Visual Basic was far ahead of most of today's client tech. HTML/CSS/JS are not even close to be called a serious GUI stack for applications despite they are used for that as the Web ate the world.