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Any other evidence? I don't "feel" this, flutter seems to be floundering from what I've seen.

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bsaul 6y ago
Same feeling here. still waiting for that killer flutter app to convince me one can actually build a real app with decent latency in flutter
- chirau 6y ago
  What do you mean by killer exactly? Splice is now on flutter, including web. I'd say that is a pretty demanding app.
  - wtetzner 6y ago
    A killer app is something like Rails. Rails made Ruby popular, because it was so good that people who otherwise wouldn't have been interested in Ruby were willing to use it for the benefits they got from Rails.
    - satvikpendem 6y ago
      I suppose Flutter is Dart's killer app, since you're comparing frameworks and languages. Rails is to Ruby as Flutter is to Dart, as it were. I suggest you give it a try. Personally, this felt like the "killer" feature to me, fully advanced animations that I'm not sure are possible on native widget based frameworks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCyoHclCqc8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCyoHclCqc8
    - hopia 6y ago
      Wouldn't Flutter be the killer app to Dart as Rails was to Ruby by your analogy?
      - wtetzner 6y ago
        Maybe? I don't know enough about it to say. I was just trying to clarify what a "killer app" was by using an example.
  - dmix 6y ago
    I checked out Splice and they are using Angular/Rails for their web app? Both builtwith and HTML source code for their marketing website and logged in app indicate this. I watched their talk video [1] and they seemed to have only built an MVPish app using Flutter (ie, less than a year using it + a team of two devs). And it only seems to be for the desktop app? Maybe I'm missing where they are using it on the web... but I wouldn't call this a huge buy in. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcjPNKmyrlM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcjPNKmyrlM
  - bsaul 6y ago
    I mean an app with a large user base built in majority with flutter.
ProAm 6y ago
The problem with flutter is you never know when Google will stop investing in the product at any moment when the devs shift their priority.and let it die on the vine.
- happa 6y ago
  People love to say this but rarely provide concrete examples. Google has a habit of discontinuing unsuccessful services, not technologies like SDKs or whole programming languages.
  - NateEag 6y ago
    Angular.js is currently causing problems for me, as it's going to be unsupported in about a year.
    - fastball 6y ago
      https://angular.io/guide/upgrade https://angular.io/guide/upgrade
      - NateEag 6y ago
        The point is precisely that I have to do that. GP asked for evidence of Google abandoning things, and Angular.js is exactly that. Upgrading to an incompatible framework is not supporting the old one.
        fastball 6y ago
        If you can "upgrade", then it's not incompatible. Every major revision of software has breaking changes (or as you call them, "incompatibilities"), some more than others (see Python 2 -> 3). That doesn't mean it's "abandoned". Google made major API changes and renamed it to better communicate that it's not some simple JS framework – calling that abandoned is disingenuous. It's only abandoned in-so-far as every old version of every software ever gets abandoned at some point.

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Same feeling here. still waiting for that killer flutter app to convince me one can actually build a real app with decent latency in flutter

chirau 6y ago
What do you mean by killer exactly? Splice is now on flutter, including web. I'd say that is a pretty demanding app.
- wtetzner 6y ago
  A killer app is something like Rails. Rails made Ruby popular, because it was so good that people who otherwise wouldn't have been interested in Ruby were willing to use it for the benefits they got from Rails.
  - satvikpendem 6y ago
    I suppose Flutter is Dart's killer app, since you're comparing frameworks and languages. Rails is to Ruby as Flutter is to Dart, as it were. I suggest you give it a try. Personally, this felt like the "killer" feature to me, fully advanced animations that I'm not sure are possible on native widget based frameworks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCyoHclCqc8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCyoHclCqc8
  - hopia 6y ago
    Wouldn't Flutter be the killer app to Dart as Rails was to Ruby by your analogy?
    - wtetzner 6y ago
      Maybe? I don't know enough about it to say. I was just trying to clarify what a "killer app" was by using an example.
- dmix 6y ago
  I checked out Splice and they are using Angular/Rails for their web app? Both builtwith and HTML source code for their marketing website and logged in app indicate this. I watched their talk video [1] and they seemed to have only built an MVPish app using Flutter (ie, less than a year using it + a team of two devs). And it only seems to be for the desktop app? Maybe I'm missing where they are using it on the web... but I wouldn't call this a huge buy in. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcjPNKmyrlM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcjPNKmyrlM
- bsaul 6y ago
  I mean an app with a large user base built in majority with flutter.

ProAm 6y ago

The problem with flutter is you never know when Google will stop investing in the product at any moment when the devs shift their priority.and let it die on the vine.

happa 6y ago
People love to say this but rarely provide concrete examples. Google has a habit of discontinuing unsuccessful services, not technologies like SDKs or whole programming languages.
- NateEag 6y ago
  Angular.js is currently causing problems for me, as it's going to be unsupported in about a year.
  - fastball 6y ago
    https://angular.io/guide/upgrade https://angular.io/guide/upgrade
    - NateEag 6y ago
      The point is precisely that I have to do that. GP asked for evidence of Google abandoning things, and Angular.js is exactly that. Upgrading to an incompatible framework is not supporting the old one.
      - fastball 6y ago
        If you can "upgrade", then it's not incompatible. Every major revision of software has breaking changes (or as you call them, "incompatibilities"), some more than others (see Python 2 -> 3). That doesn't mean it's "abandoned". Google made major API changes and renamed it to better communicate that it's not some simple JS framework – calling that abandoned is disingenuous. It's only abandoned in-so-far as every old version of every software ever gets abandoned at some point.