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Perhaps this explains why SoCal is doing poorly compared to the Bay Area: https://www.latimes.com/projects/california-coronavirus-cases-tracking-outbreak/ https

Perhaps this explains why SoCal is doing poorly compared to the Bay Area: https://www.latimes.com/projects/california-coronavirus-cases-tracking-outbreak/ https://www.latimes.com/projects/california-coronavirus-case...

SpicyLemonZest 7y ago
No, people are pretty over it in the Bay Area too. I don't know a single person who's staying within the letter of the stay-at-home orders any longer. (Admittedly, everyone I know has been pretty diligent about masks and handwashing since March.)
- archagon 7y ago
  I’m in the Bay Area too, and most everyone I know has been complying, more or less.
- cool_dude85 7y ago
  No, MY anecdotes tell a different story altogether!
  - SpicyLemonZest 7y ago
    If you know of any polls about compliance with stay-at-home orders, I'm all ears. I get the impression that pollsters are deliberately avoiding asking about it.
whalesalad 7y ago
If you look at our counties by population, LA and OC are doing pretty stellar relatively speaking. Add up all the counties in "SoCal" and you're looking at roughly 20 million people. The Bay area is what... ~4 million for SF/Alameda/Santa Clara? Not trying to start a pissing contest here but the fact that we're going to have more cases and deaths is just a numbers game.
- archagon 7y ago
  Yeah, but most of the charts and graphs further down are per 100k, and the doubling rate for SoCal has tended to be much worse whenever I've checked the page. (I only bring it up because I've wondered on more than one occasion what might account for the difference.) Fortunately, it seems to be leveling off somewhat, except for Santa Barbara. I really, really hope we can keep it that way.
  - p1esk 7y ago
    In Santa Barbara, the stats are bad because they have been counting infections at a federal prison in Lompoc, where there are something like 70% infection rate and 2 deaths already.
- danans 7y ago
  > Add up all the counties in "SoCal" and you're looking at roughly 20 million people. The Bay area is what... ~4 million for SF/Alameda/Santa Clara? > the fact that we're going to have more cases and deaths is just a numbers game. The rates are higher in LA/OC too, not just the absolute numbers. The LA metro area population (which includes OC) has 13 million people. There are 36k confirmed infections. So the confirmed infection rate is .28%. There are 1600 deaths so far, so the death rate is .01%. The Bay Area population is 7.75 million, the # of infections stands at 10k, which is confirmed infection rate of .13%, and deaths are 360, which is a death rate of .005%. It's absolutely not a contest, but the rates are what they are. If you choose to expand either areas' stats out to include their neighboring counties, the differences in the rates don't change much, but will eventually converge with CA wide rates, since this disease is most prevalent in urban areas. Both the Bay Area and LA/OC appear to have lower infection rates than many other urban parts of the country and world, but the Bay Area is currently seeing both a lower infection and death rate than Southern California. Only time will tell if that holds. Stats from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_metropolitan_area https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_metropolitan_area https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Bay_Area https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Bay_Area https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
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SpicyLemonZest 7y ago

No, people are pretty over it in the Bay Area too. I don't know a single person who's staying within the letter of the stay-at-home orders any longer. (Admittedly, everyone I know has been pretty diligent about masks and handwashing since March.)

archagon 7y ago
I’m in the Bay Area too, and most everyone I know has been complying, more or less.
cool_dude85 7y ago
No, MY anecdotes tell a different story altogether!
- SpicyLemonZest 7y ago
  If you know of any polls about compliance with stay-at-home orders, I'm all ears. I get the impression that pollsters are deliberately avoiding asking about it.

whalesalad 7y ago

If you look at our counties by population, LA and OC are doing pretty stellar relatively speaking. Add up all the counties in "SoCal" and you're looking at roughly 20 million people. The Bay area is what... ~4 million for SF/Alameda/Santa Clara? Not trying to start a pissing contest here but the fact that we're going to have more cases and deaths is just a numbers game.

archagon 7y ago
Yeah, but most of the charts and graphs further down are per 100k, and the doubling rate for SoCal has tended to be much worse whenever I've checked the page. (I only bring it up because I've wondered on more than one occasion what might account for the difference.) Fortunately, it seems to be leveling off somewhat, except for Santa Barbara. I really, really hope we can keep it that way.
- p1esk 7y ago
  In Santa Barbara, the stats are bad because they have been counting infections at a federal prison in Lompoc, where there are something like 70% infection rate and 2 deaths already.
danans 7y ago
> Add up all the counties in "SoCal" and you're looking at roughly 20 million people. The Bay area is what... ~4 million for SF/Alameda/Santa Clara? > the fact that we're going to have more cases and deaths is just a numbers game. The rates are higher in LA/OC too, not just the absolute numbers. The LA metro area population (which includes OC) has 13 million people. There are 36k confirmed infections. So the confirmed infection rate is .28%. There are 1600 deaths so far, so the death rate is .01%. The Bay Area population is 7.75 million, the # of infections stands at 10k, which is confirmed infection rate of .13%, and deaths are 360, which is a death rate of .005%. It's absolutely not a contest, but the rates are what they are. If you choose to expand either areas' stats out to include their neighboring counties, the differences in the rates don't change much, but will eventually converge with CA wide rates, since this disease is most prevalent in urban areas. Both the Bay Area and LA/OC appear to have lower infection rates than many other urban parts of the country and world, but the Bay Area is currently seeing both a lower infection and death rate than Southern California. Only time will tell if that holds. Stats from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_metropolitan_area https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_metropolitan_area https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Bay_Area https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Bay_Area https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
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