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Yeah. Nate Silver has tweeted a few times about disliking beach shutdowns -- a lot of evidence says outdoor transmission is pretty negligible, and you gotta wei

• gnopgnip 6y ago
  Most of the beaches in LA are open. The beaches that are closed are closed because social distancing is impractical
• jayd16 6y ago
  LA beaches are set to reopen for some activity.
  • colechristensen 6y ago
    I took a drive up the coast from Monterey northbound and every beach access was lined with cars. If there was a parking space meant for cars it was closed with yellow caution tape and cones, but if there was a space to park on the side of the road near beach access it was full. It seems they've discovered their authority extends to closing parking lots and not much further, and they don't want to arrest people and get their orders struck down in court.
    • jayd16 6y ago
      Those street spots are usually full anyway. Free parking fills up before the lots so that doesn't surprise me.
• bcrosby95 6y ago
  So much of the reaction to this is emotional/political. I had a friend tell me he yelled at someone entering a closed park. I said its probably safer in a giant closed park than in my own backyard. He said: well, if I'm not allowed to go to the bar then he can't go to the park.
  • bitbuilder 6y ago
    Very true. As I was telling a friend of mine, it feels like a collective case of "misery loves company". Any indication on my social media that someone is stepping out their front door to be proactive about their mental health is met with an unfortunate amount of derision and shaming. And the political aspect to this can be just as depressing. It seems a nuanced conversation on the benefits of reopening is impossible with my friends on the left side of the political spectrum (which is most of them, and includes myself). I have incredibly smart friends on the left, and I'd love to hear a point of view from them that I didn't feel was being driven from an "us vs them" mindset. It's really unfortunate that advocating for reopening has been cast as the position of the looney right in the national discourse. When to reopen could be the most important question we face in decades, and a reasoned, dispassionate discussion of the pros and cons sure would be wonderful.
• colechristensen 6y ago
  Nobody is sure how it transmits. But if it's airborne, moving air and sunlight are certainly going to make gathering at a beach much safer than gathering inside an office building. Handwashing stations and ULPA filters in HVAC systems set to renew the air x times more often I think will end up being the long term solution, along with a persistent disease which is just a part of life. The masks seem to just be a joke made up by people wanting to do something.
• wilshiredetroit 6y ago
  The problem with opening up the beaches.. are the congregation of large groups of people at choke points such as crosswalk intersections and such places. heres an update on Florida.. https://www.orlandosentinel.com/coronavirus/os-ne-coronavirus-tuesday-may-12-20200512-eb56lsaxanarrec5qync2fn4hy-story.html https://www.orlandosentinel.com/coronavirus/os-ne-coronaviru...
  • the-pigeon 6y ago
    That said, Florida had beaches open in many areas that people predicted would cause huge surges and they did not from any of the data I've seen.
  • testfoobar 6y ago
    Bathrooms & restaurants. You can bring your own food or get takeout - but where are you going to relieve yourself? How do you socially distance at a beach bathroom? Does everyone hit up the same fast-food bathrooms nearby - concentrating the risk?
    • catalogia 6y ago
      Piss in the ocean? Fish do it.