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AWS EC2 General Price Cut
- lowdose 6y agoAnd traffic bandwidth? I know it is not Christmas yet but it would be great if those prices trend to marginal cost for the sake of innovation.
- thinkingkong 6y agoDont be silly.
- uyuioi 6y agoHave traffic prices even moved in years? It’s such a blatant ripoff.
- pkulak 6y agoGood for backups though.
- djjsjdjsjsjs 6y agoWrite once, read never!
- wolco 6y ago"The price reduction you receive, depends on the region you choose, whether you take out a 1 or 3 year term and finally the instance family you commit to in your agreement. Price reductions vary from between 1% to a massive 18% on what you were previously paying" 18% reductions for 1 year terms in Europe. 8% in mnt US region for 1 year term. No savings elsewhere. Some prices reductions elsewhere in the world.
- cognaitiv 6y agoHow does this compare to a general macroeconomic GDP forecast over the next 3 years?
- ashtonkem 6y agoI don’t know, but if AWS prices reflected economic reality they should reflect the GDP hit and the shift from real world to digital services. It’s unclear which one wins.
- TechBro8615 6y agoAre they still extorting customers by price gouging bandwidth? Maybe one day I’ll wake up to news they’ve decided to charge for capacity instead of transfer.
- abtinf 6y ago> Are they still extorting customers... That is a contradiction in terms. According to the OED: Extort means to "obtain (something) by force, threats, or other unfair means." Customer means "a person or organization that buys goods or services from a store or business" Thus, extortion is a coercive relationship--we call the target of extortion a victim, not a customer. The relationship of a vendor and customer is voluntary.
- koheripbal 6y agoIt's nice to see that the increasing amount of hyperbole here isn't impacting everyone.
- abtinf 6y agoIt's not just hyperbole, it's grossly unjust. Amazon quite rightly charge a higher price for some portions of AWS--transparently, up front, with tools to assess usage and estimate fees beforehand--because they created a product that many organizations believe provides extraordinary value. And for the sin of earning a profit through voluntary trade, a vocal minority of HN damns them every single time AWS is mentioned. Every time we let this evil behavior go unchallenged, all productive individuals are diminished.
- TechBro8615 6y agoWait, are you saying it’s grossly unjust to criticize the pricing of Amazon’s cloud product? Just to be clear: Amazon is not paying a variable cost for how many bits are transferred over their wires. And the standard, prior to cloud, and still in colocation, was to charge for capacity (i.e. $/gbps) rather than transfer (i.e $/gb). They are making massive, massive profits by this pricing arrangement. The cost of sustaining 100 gbps transfer for 30 days on Amazon is orders of magnitude higher than paying for one month of 100 gbps of IP transit. They’ve normalized a pricing structure that is disconnected from any actual cost basis. You’re free to pay for it, but it’s quite amusing to say criticizing that is unjust.
- hmk99 6y agoThe price reduction for M5 in US East is just 2%. Wish it was something that was actually substantial.
- cyberferret 6y agoNoticed that too. We just upgraded all our servers from M3 to M5 instances, but all in the us-east-1 region, so looks like we won't save a lot by purchasing more reserved instances. Noticed a huge 20% reduction in some other areas though...
- dodobirdlord 6y agoThe us-east-1 region is widely considered as the "default" region, and so it's where customers put resources when they don't have any particular reason to put it somewhere else. For that same reason, it's also where less-sophisticated customers are likely to run unreplicated workloads. It's also the oldest, and biggest, and home to the most different instance types and rack architectures. It makes life hard when your largest, oldest, weirdest, and most important region are all the same region, so AWS has been trying to nudge customers off of old instance types and out of us-east-1 with pricing changes for a long time.
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- karterk 6y agoPR speak aside, it looks like they are trying to get people to switch to certain regions, perhaps which are not popular with lot of idle machines? The popular locations like Oregon and Virginia don't have much discounts to offer.
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- lihan 6y agoWill Google Cloud follow up?
- dodobirdlord 6y agoThey basically did a while back with the E2 series of instances. https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/compute/google-compute-engine-gets-new-e2-vm-machine-types https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/compute/google-comput...
- techntoke 6y agoGoogle already did. They offer significant costs savings over AWS. Google also allows unlimited egress to other Google services.
- sb36 6y agoIf I just purchased a few RIs 2 weeks ago, did I miss out on the savings, or are they somehow retroactive?
- QuinnyPig 6y agoReach out to your account manager.
- jgalt212 6y agoAWS and EC2 is probably a pretty good deal for high CPU, hi IO within the cloud, but very low IO egress. Monte Carlo simulations? PDE computations?
- pmiller2 6y agoWouldn't a lot of that stuff be better done on GPU instances, even at a higher per hour cost?
- kinkrtyavimoodh 6y agoEC2 also has GPU instances, right? The p2/p3/g3/g4 series.
- User23 6y agoThis raises a good point. Would anyone be willing to give some examples of use cases where egress to cloudfront or ec2 isn't viable? Most useful computations I can think of involve consuming large amounts of data and simplifying it to some easily digestible result. Media streaming is the first and only example that comes to mind, but I'm sure there must be others.
- infogulch 6y agoHmm, given the uneven reductions between regions, I wonder if this is more of a move to balance (and increase) demand so that it more closely matches their supply. So then I guess the question is: why do they have excess supply?
- lawrenceyan 6y agoCompeting cloud service providers gouging away at what used to be an AWS monopoly that unfortunately for Amazon, no longer exists.
- lostapathy 6y agoAlternatively, some regions are cheaper to add capacity to than others (either cap-ex and/or op-ex), so extra capacity gets steered there.
- unexaminedlife 6y agoI'm holding out for a better price on GPU instances (for parallel processing). My 'back of the napkin' calculations indicate it would take very little time for it to pay for itself by purchasing your own NVIDIA GPU(s) and running them from a colo. Especially if your requirements are for the instance(s) to run 24x7.
- ramraj07 6y agoWhy would they ever be not the case ? If you ignore sysadmin costs AWS is always more expensive (even when reserved for three years) than any machine you maintain yourself
- unexaminedlife 6y agoI do my own sysadmin work when needed, but I find plenty of places where I'm gladly willing to make the relatively small concession (pay the cloud markup). In the case of GPU instances I find they're not even trying to be competitive with market costs.
- mhh__ 6y agoIsn't the whole point of cloud that you don't own the machines? The calculus probably isn't as good when you factor in support, maintenance, and power costs right?
- unexaminedlife 6y agoPower is accounted for in my calculations. Technically today's gpu compute does wonders for power consumption. And likely to only improve from here. In the many years I've used cloud I've never requested support, so in my experience I don't need to calculate that in. And even when you consider machine costs, as long as you can get at least 1 yr (not an unreasonable assumption) out of your equipment you're more than making up for what it would've cost in the cloud.
- chrisseaton 6y agoCan you actually buy GPUs now? An advantage of Amazon in the past was that they were actually available there, where they weren’t available to buy in practice.
- boynamedsue 6y agoNo change in pricing for GP2 in six years.
- SteveNuts 6y agoI'm waiting for the day they announce bandwidth price cuts
- doctorfoo 6y agothis. the only way I can make profit with my web service is by using a third party low budget CDN as a caching layer. Even with that, S3 data transfer remains my biggest cost. if I could spare the time, I'd make a custom caching layer so that S3 is never hit at all except for upload, and is used only for disaster recovery.
- User23 6y agoSounds like you just had a million dollar idea. Why not build it out and offer it to the many many other people in your position?
- toomuchtodo 6y agoBackblaze B2 is what you’re looking for.
- rb808 6y agoBuying your own Physical hardware is so cheap now its crazy. A commodity Ryzen 16 vCPU box is about the same price as 2 months rent on EC2. I get maintenance, electricity and bandwidth isn't free but I honestly thought cloud server prices would be much lower by now. No wonder AWS is making huge profits.
- kilbuz 6y agoFor me, not having to worry about the "where" and "how" related to physical placement and connection of that Ryzen box is worth the premium and then some.
- latch 6y agoThen use a dedicated provider. You won't save as much, but in raw costs, you'll be about 2x ahead and in cost/performance you'll be 4x-8x (much more if you're a heavy bandwidth user, and much much more if proper hardware lets you scale vertically rather than prematurely having to scale horizontally).
- tanilama 6y agoAWS is so much more than just hardware It is called service for a reason.
- rumanator 6y agoWith AWS you also pay for much more than just hardware. Even when compared with other cloud providers, AWS is super expensive. The only interesting service that AWS provides is the ability to host your services globally through multiple availability zones, but unless you need to provide a global service with low latency everywhere in the globe then that's just not worth the time and money.
- tanilama 6y ago> Even when compared with other cloud providers, AWS is super expensive. Well this is not true. I don't think Azure is much cheaper in that regard. In reality, the big clouds are watching each other very closely. Do you have data other than anecdote evidence? Also if you are big enough, you can negotiate better deal with AWS separately, and I believe that is the norm. Disclaimer: I worked at AWS before.
- neeraga 6y agoStill expensive
- toredash 6y agoThis is far from a general price cut. It's a price cut only of you are willing to commit to long term usage.
- ateevchopra 6y agoI'm wondering if this is to support small businesses/startups in the light of Covid19. I know they amazon and google are already giving covid19 discounts to companies but that won't cut it. I personally know so many startups who are looking at their huge server bills and won't be able to survive for long if that pricing continues. A failed startup is just one less customer for cloud companies. So could this new pricing be to to keep existing small/medium customers ? Just a thought. What do you guys are experiencing around ?
- fulafel 6y agoThey're cutting only Intel instance-type pricing, a signal that AMD and ARM instances are relatively more valuable?
- benbro 6y agoCan someone recommend dedicated server providers with US, EU and Asia locations? Hetzner looks great but they only have EU location.
- ksec 6y agoOVH? I often wonder why Hetzner dont expand internationally.
- ryuukk_ 6y agobefore: i don't know the final price after: i don't know the final price - 8%