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What price did the world exact from the because of the 1918 or Mexico for the swine flu pandemics? Ok, so we only discovered for sure that the 1918 flu came fro

What price did the world exact from the because of the 1918 or Mexico for the swine flu pandemics? Ok, so we only discovered for sure that the 1918 flu came from the US recently, but swine flu we knew right away. Also, China has paid an enormous price for this. Do you think that Chinese administrators are looking at what happened and saying, "golly, we got off lightly here, no need to make any changes". Also: claiming that someone has to pay a price for doing something without having in mind a realistic mechanism for making them pay is not reactionary, just dumb.

stormdennis 6y ago
They apparently have paid a price in lives that's but a fraction of the price many European countries and the United States have each paid. Their system of government has led to this pandemic. That's why a price needs to be paid
- pinkfoot 6y ago
  And if China gets a secondary wave of infection from negligence in the USA? Then what? The Treasury is going is going to cut China a cheque?
  - stormdennis 6y ago
    Not unless the USA tries to deceive them like what China did originally
    - GordonS 6y ago
      The president of the United States has claimed the virus was a hoax, that people might cure themselves by injecting disinfectant, and I've forgotten what else. How does that fit in?
    - jfk13 6y ago
      In which court do you expect these kind of claims to be litigated, and how will its judgements be enforced?
stormdennis 6y ago
I don't believe that Mexico or the USA actively tried to suppress news of those epidemics. Am i wrong?
- Trasmatta 6y ago
  > To maintain morale, World War I censors minimized early reports of illness and mortality in Germany, the United Kingdom, France, and the United States. Newspapers were free to report the epidemic's effects in neutral Spain, such as the grave illness of King Alfonso XIII, and these stories created a false impression of Spain as especially hard hit. This gave rise to the name "Spanish" flu. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu So yeah, I would say the US definitely suppressed news of the 1918 flu.
nradov 6y ago
While the most likely source of the 1918 flu was a pig in the US, that is by no means definitively proven. Other possibilities remain. We'll probably never know for sure.

stormdennis 6y ago

They apparently have paid a price in lives that's but a fraction of the price many European countries and the United States have each paid. Their system of government has led to this pandemic. That's why a price needs to be paid

pinkfoot 6y ago
And if China gets a secondary wave of infection from negligence in the USA? Then what? The Treasury is going is going to cut China a cheque?
- stormdennis 6y ago
  Not unless the USA tries to deceive them like what China did originally
  - GordonS 6y ago
    The president of the United States has claimed the virus was a hoax, that people might cure themselves by injecting disinfectant, and I've forgotten what else. How does that fit in?
  - jfk13 6y ago
    In which court do you expect these kind of claims to be litigated, and how will its judgements be enforced?

stormdennis 6y ago

I don't believe that Mexico or the USA actively tried to suppress news of those epidemics. Am i wrong?

Trasmatta 6y ago
> To maintain morale, World War I censors minimized early reports of illness and mortality in Germany, the United Kingdom, France, and the United States. Newspapers were free to report the epidemic's effects in neutral Spain, such as the grave illness of King Alfonso XIII, and these stories created a false impression of Spain as especially hard hit. This gave rise to the name "Spanish" flu. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu So yeah, I would say the US definitely suppressed news of the 1918 flu.

nradov 6y ago

While the most likely source of the 1918 flu was a pig in the US, that is by no means definitively proven. Other possibilities remain. We'll probably never know for sure.