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Went to Auroville, really nice place along with Pondicherry. There is an element of cult to the place but their message is good

oriettaxx 6y ago
I went there, too. A lot, and only, black people working for 'illuminated' white (rich) ones: I was pretty shocked. Nothing new, really: and this is pretty sad.
- lopmotr 6y ago
  If you have a principle of nondiscrimination and people self-select into different roles, what can you do? Discriminate or accept their differences?
  - _jal 6y ago
    You can attempt to understand the pressures that lead people into "self-selecting", for a start.
    - lopmotr 6y ago
      If the answer is poverty and desire for the lifestyle, then what? They can't cure poverty in India or dull people's fantasies. I'd say the situation is OK and doesn't need fixing.
  - jariel 6y ago
    Rich people coming in and living easy, and other, very poor people moving in because maybe they need a job is not 'self-selection' it's 'a priori selection' based upon the economic systems they are coming in from, not the one they are in. These places make great sets for fun movies though ...
    - lopmotr 6y ago
      Whatever you call it, people are choosing their roles. Should they work against that, such as by denying employment to darker skinned people and denying membership to lighter skinned people? Or not.
      - jariel 6y ago
        ... perhaps the most false choice ever presented in a social argument. 'Kids born it poverty can't go to University so factory work is their 'choice', why should we deny them work at the factory?' Seriously? If it were just 'some place' then it would be more of a rhetorical question, but the entire point of the villages is to create a place where people are equal irrespective of clour or creed, so the hypocrisy looms large. Maybe they can take their free time to ponder such questions because though answers are never obvious, there are opportunities for improvement.
- sswaner 6y ago
  That was my most distinct memory as well, stopped by the cafe for lunch and the European woman in charge was constantly yelling at the Indian staff. Away from the residents, the place was very peaceful and serene. But, it felt like a few decades of social stratification had created a power hierarchy.

oriettaxx 6y ago

I went there, too. A lot, and only, black people working for 'illuminated' white (rich) ones: I was pretty shocked. Nothing new, really: and this is pretty sad.

lopmotr 6y ago
If you have a principle of nondiscrimination and people self-select into different roles, what can you do? Discriminate or accept their differences?
- _jal 6y ago
  You can attempt to understand the pressures that lead people into "self-selecting", for a start.
  - lopmotr 6y ago
    If the answer is poverty and desire for the lifestyle, then what? They can't cure poverty in India or dull people's fantasies. I'd say the situation is OK and doesn't need fixing.
- jariel 6y ago
  Rich people coming in and living easy, and other, very poor people moving in because maybe they need a job is not 'self-selection' it's 'a priori selection' based upon the economic systems they are coming in from, not the one they are in. These places make great sets for fun movies though ...
  - lopmotr 6y ago
    Whatever you call it, people are choosing their roles. Should they work against that, such as by denying employment to darker skinned people and denying membership to lighter skinned people? Or not.
    - jariel 6y ago
      ... perhaps the most false choice ever presented in a social argument. 'Kids born it poverty can't go to University so factory work is their 'choice', why should we deny them work at the factory?' Seriously? If it were just 'some place' then it would be more of a rhetorical question, but the entire point of the villages is to create a place where people are equal irrespective of clour or creed, so the hypocrisy looms large. Maybe they can take their free time to ponder such questions because though answers are never obvious, there are opportunities for improvement.
sswaner 6y ago
That was my most distinct memory as well, stopped by the cafe for lunch and the European woman in charge was constantly yelling at the Indian staff. Away from the residents, the place was very peaceful and serene. But, it felt like a few decades of social stratification had created a power hierarchy.