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Welcome to Auroville
- smartinspereira 6y agoDown for me..
- brendanmcd 6y agosame :( rough thing to happen on launch day
- vinay427 6y agoIt's not being launched, and it's not a product to begin with. The Wikipedia pages that another commenter posted are helpful, in any case.
- renewiltord 6y agoYou'd think there was some seedy truth to the place but an ex of mine had family involved in the administration of the place and I've been there (both before I knew her and after). Quite a charming place in reality. Though I'm told everything almost fell apart after a founder or big leader died and the government had to step in. It's the Indian government so usually that's a disaster but this one seems to have turned out okay. Anyway, it's unlikely the website can handle an average company let alone HN so mirrors: https://web.archive.org/web/20200427170816/https://www.auroville.org/ https://web.archive.org/web/20200427170816/https://www.aurov... http://archive.is/BjdIk http://archive.is/BjdIk
- kr1m 6y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auroville https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auroville
- wincy 6y agoLooks like the page is down, here’s the Wikipedia page. Apparently it’s an experimental city created in the 1960s in India. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auroville https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auroville
- mothsonasloth 6y agoWent to Auroville, really nice place along with Pondicherry. There is an element of cult to the place but their message is good
- oriettaxx 6y agoI went there, too. A lot, and only, black people working for 'illuminated' white (rich) ones: I was pretty shocked. Nothing new, really: and this is pretty sad.
- lopmotr 6y agoIf you have a principle of nondiscrimination and people self-select into different roles, what can you do? Discriminate or accept their differences?
- _jal 6y agoYou can attempt to understand the pressures that lead people into "self-selecting", for a start.
- lopmotr 6y agoIf the answer is poverty and desire for the lifestyle, then what? They can't cure poverty in India or dull people's fantasies. I'd say the situation is OK and doesn't need fixing.
- jariel 6y agoRich people coming in and living easy, and other, very poor people moving in because maybe they need a job is not 'self-selection' it's 'a priori selection' based upon the economic systems they are coming in from, not the one they are in. These places make great sets for fun movies though ...
- lopmotr 6y agoWhatever you call it, people are choosing their roles. Should they work against that, such as by denying employment to darker skinned people and denying membership to lighter skinned people? Or not.
- lostmsu 6y agoHow's the Internet access there?
- new2628 6y agoPlease don't go there to turn it into another "digital nomad" place.
- blast 6y agoPlease don't gatekeep.
- new2628 6y agoWhat's wrong with that?
- lostmsu 6y agoFor starters, if you don't live there, why do you want to decide for them? So that you personally could travel there and check it out without nomads? P.S. not a nomad.
- jazzyjackson 6y agoHave you ever seen a walled garden without a gate? You need gatekeepers, else the deer eat all your roses.
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- metacritic12 6y ago"Money is not meant to generate money." - Central banks across the world, moments before lowering interest rates below zero.
- dang 6y agoSubmitted title was "Money is not meant to generate money. Welcome to Auroville". Submitters: please don't do that - see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
- ethagnawl 6y agoI stayed at the compound in Pondicherry. I remember there being some slightly strange rules you had to agree to in order to stay there (e.g. no sex) but the "staff" (don't know if they were employees or devotees?) were welcoming and the accommodations were great. The compound is right on the Bay of Bengal and sleeping in that room with the windows open and the waves crashing was an experience I'll never forget.
- algesten 6y agoWhen I was there, I learnt that Auroville share a lot with Sri Aurobindo and the Holy Mother, but the ashram/compounds in Pondicherry doesn't have as much to do with Auroville itself these days as it did back in the 60s-70s.
- Florin_Andrei 6y ago> some slightly strange rules you had to agree to in order to stay there (e.g. no sex) That's not uncommon for a spiritual retreat type of place.
- zokier 6y agohttps://i.imgur.com/BPioTnL.png https://i.imgur.com/BPioTnL.png this picture is bit aspirational compared to satellite pictures of the area: https://goo.gl/maps/4xqCoBVwbbqy51Z29 https://goo.gl/maps/4xqCoBVwbbqy51Z29
- Ritsuko_akagi 6y agoFunny I read about this place in r/india a few times and they seem to regard it as a racist hippie colony.
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- andrii 6y agoI have been to Auroville twice in 2010 and 2017 and cannot recommend it enough to anyone at least slightly interested in spiritual development.
- krtkush 6y agoI would take anything said by r/india with a pinch of salt. In fact, I would reccomend staying away from most main stream Indian subreddits. Each one is peddling some kind of disgusting agenda.
- as1mov 6y agoIt's kind of sad what happened to r/india. I've been visiting the sub for almost a decade, it has turned from a rather relaxed community where people could talk to a hyper political fighting arena where you can only be a right/left wing shill. The ban-hammer heavy moderation doesn't really help. I would post this criticism on the subreddit itself, but it would be removed as any criticism of the sub/mods is against the rules and is automatically caught by the AutoMod. The sub seems to really be in favor of progressive skeptical thinking but the manner in which the mods operate the subreddit is exactly the opposite.
- krtkush 6y agoTrue. It was such a pleasant community with very helpful people. Now even in completely non-political posts you have people bringing in politics (granted, they are usually down-voted). And then there is r/indiaspeaks...
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- adamretter 6y agoAs I was staying in Pondicherry for a month so I a visited Auroville a few times in 2018. It's hard to describe. On the one hand it seems like a cause for good, on the other you occasionally discover some out-of-place clearly expensive and wealthy buildings for residents dotted around the jungle which forms the site. Seems to have some strange contradictions.
- filmgirlcw 6y agoSo it’s Jonestown?
- Barrin92 6y ago>"Auroville was born on 28 February 1968. Its founder, the Mother, created the Auroville Charter consisting of four main ideas which underpinned her vision for Auroville. When Auroville came into being, All India Radio (AIR) broadcast the Charter, live, in 16 languages. Aurovilians apply the ideas of the Auroville Charter in their daily life, in policy-development, and decisions, big and small. The Charter thus forms an omnipresent referent that silently guides the people who choose to live and work for Auroville. The Auroville Charter Auroville belongs to nobody in particular. Auroville belongs to humanity as a whole. But, to live in Auroville, one must be a willing servitor of the Divine Consciousness. Auroville will be the place of an unending education, of constant progress, and a youth that never ages. Auroville wants to be the bridge between the past and the future. Taking advantage of all discoveries from without and from within, Auroville will boldly spring towards future realisations. Auroville will be a site of material and spiritual researches for a living embodiment of an actual human unity." Well that sounds completely normal /s I've seen Midsommar, no thanks
- aerovistae 6y agoThought the same thing. The second I saw a reference to someone titled "The Mother", all my "cult!" alarms went off.
- mirimir 6y agoI was blessed by The Mother, during one of her US tours. She seemed to be a very sweet old woman.
- Mediterraneo10 6y agoAuroville is the product of a fringe spiritual movement, but not an outright cult. Back in the 1960s, Auroville was able to attract so much approval from representatives of various governments and the NGO world because the Mother and Sri Aurobindo were seen as relatively reasonable people, in spite of their utopian visions. As far as fringe spiritual movements go, Auroville is comparable to Rudolf Steiner, Gurdjieff, the spiritual side of the Esperanto movement, etc. which definitely have their share of critics but are large, institutionalized phenomena where people can enter or leave the movement as they please, and lives aren’t completely controlled and subjected to the whims of a single living leader or a committee thereof. Also, when you actually visit Auroville, you find that it has splintered into disparate communities that sometimes outright dislike one another. Again, this seems very different from cults, which tend to insist on forced unity and orthodoxy among its membership.
- andy_ppp 6y agoI went there, it’s pretty weird if I’m honest. I felt as if I was living in an Indian Hitchcock film. It felt as though there were people who were tourists and people who lived there and they were very separate. I have this feeling the whole place is a riddle, I’d like to go back and try to understand it again...
- Florin_Andrei 6y ago> I’d like to go back and try to understand it again There's a book called "Sri Aurobindo or the Adventure of Consciousness" by a guy named Satprem, which pretty much gives you the founding story of the place. Caveat - Satprem was a disciple, so this is not a view from the outside.
- andy_ppp 6y agoSeems the PDF is available freely here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9DdtF_uMk05NUhyM09MOXdTS1U/edit https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9DdtF_uMk05NUhyM09MOXdTS1U...
- dharma1 6y agohttps://auroville.com https://auroville.com works if .org is down. I've come across it in the past because they build and sell pretty nice (just intonation) musical instruments. The instruments are cool but the place comes across a bit cultish https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG9QfEMd_GU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG9QfEMd_GU
- bdsa 6y agoIn a case of the Baader-Meinhof phenomenon (or frequency illusion), I've been learning Elixir/Phoenix and started off with https://github.com/shankardevy/mango https://github.com/shankardevy/mango which explicitly mentions Auroville and is the first I had heard of it. It gave me a strange vibe.
- vr46 6y agoThis is literally the last thing I expected on the front page! My family are all based in Pondicherry and have very strong historical links with the Sri Aurobindo Ashram and the Mother. And are also involved in the Auroville administration and management. I've been there a lot, I've stayed there, met many people who live there and work there. And it's an unusual place. Some of the folks in Pondy call it "Horrorvile" because of the reputation of seediness that some residents are alleged to have (sex abuse of local children, if you want to know). There is also a unusual "un-Indian" feeling about the place because of the nationality of its residents (global). However, I have met only nice people there, doing wonderful projects (solar bike sheds, environmentally-suitable architecture) and it is well worth a few visits. On the other hand, there is quite a difference between the mission statement and the practice of its values. Money isn't really supposed to change hands for work and housing. This is bullshit; many people have commercial sidelines and housing does get bought and sold. Rules are there to be bent and of course, they are. Some of the security staff can be real jobsworths and exceedingly officious, which can irritate people. And it feels a bit lawless in some regards, hovering uneasily between spirituality, cultishness and the Indian democracy. It's a peculiar place. But you probably got that already.
- 0x8BADF00D 6y agoJ. Krishnamurti said it the best: "Belief has no place where truth is concerned." I always view these types of movements with a lot of suspicion. Mainly because of the falsehoods they present. Self-realization is not something that can be taught by following someone else. You can spend your entire life looking for it in other people. But you have to experience it, to truly understand. You shouldn't even listen to what I'm writing here, as this entire comment could be a similar falsehood that detracts you in your search.
- hutzlibu 6y ago"You shouldn't even listen to what I'm writing here" If you believe that, why are you writing it then? I think, because you do believe, that text can help others understand something. Not always, though.
- conqrr 6y agoTbh this may sound cultist to others, but it's really not. You'll need to understand the philosophies of The Mother and Sri Aurobindo first for it to make sense. It's sets the example of a Utopian society. One shouldnt simply look at it from that angle and discard it without understanding the history and vision behind it.
- Florin_Andrei 6y agoI agree - as far as spiritual movements go, this is one of the least cult-ish I've ever seen. Even the stuff they say - I can at least sit down and consider it without freaking out instantly. In some ways they resemble the very modern panpsychist school of thought (Giulio Tononi, Sam Harris). Consciousness is a basic ingredient of matter. Both matter and consciousness are real. Evolution is real. There is no biblical god. Cosmology - they defer to science when it comes to that, but having consciousness as a major ingredient does shift the perspective a bit (everything becomes "evolutionary" in a sense). The way they think of the future reminds you of the Singularity theories. If Ray Kurzweil and Pierre Teilhard de Chardin wrote a book together, it wouldn't be far from this. The one thing that's a bit far out is the claim that consciousness could, in theory, interact with matter directly, not just through regular mechanisms (brain, nerves, muscles, etc). They do insist it's super-hard to do in practice. They do shun the miraculous stuff, they insist that the change of consciousness is all that really matters here and now in a spiritual endeavor. In this regard they're not very far from, say, your run of the mill buddhist school of meditation. As long as Aurobindo and Mirra were alive, they kept the place as non-cult-ish as humanly possible. I would say they even had a remarkable amount of skepticism, aside from the claims mentioned above. I'd like to visit Auroville one day, to see how things have changed in the decades since Mirra's passing. Hard to explain. I've seen plenty of crazy places (adventurous youth + interest for spirituality, yadda-yadda), but the stuff that Aurobindo + Mirra started strikes me as remarkably... rational, I guess? Read and draw your own conclusions.
- andybak 6y agoI had no idea Sam Harris would be described as panpsychist. Interesting.
- crixlet 6y agoI lived at Auroville for 3 months for a college study aborad. Wild experience. The Matramandir (the big gold dome) was a very remarkable and weird building. Definitely cult-ish, but also so truly different and innovative.
- csomar 6y agoSo it seems that they do handle the Visa situation for you (it appears that you enter India on an Entry Visa; which I understand you don't have the right to stay in India just the right of passage). There are still two other things: Taxes and Healthcare. Are you supposed to be paying taxes on your activities (if you are doing Online/Offshore work since there are no private companies in Auroville). How is healthcare handled since it can get very expensive for old people.
- gourabmi 6y agoI'm pleasantly surprised to see Auroville on the front page of HN. This brings back memories from 2 decades ago. Cheers!
- fxtentacle 6y agoIs it just me or does their icon look like the Death Star? BTW, their course offering looks very good: https://edu.auroville.org/courses https://edu.auroville.org/courses - Construction & application of Ferrocement - Production of & construction using CSEB - Arches, Vaults & Domes - Masonry I kind of would have expected Yoga and spiritual things, but it appears they are genuinely interested in the technical skills required for hands-on self-sufficiency.
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- spraveenitpro 6y agoSCAM
- Mediterraneo10 6y agoI visited Auroville in 2008, stayed two weeks, and found it an odd place indeed. Tourists could read about the huge expansion plans for the site which were set down back in the 1960s and 1970s, but all that growth seems to have stalled many years ago already. There was definitely a feeling of decay around the place, like an old socialist-era concrete monument that was supposed to represent the future but is now a sad cracked and stained relic. Many of the younger people I met were only living in Auroville because they were born there, and they had little to no interest in spirituality, the Mother, Sri Aurobindo, etc.
- peterclary 6y agoAuroville is mentioned in the Apple TV+ series “Home”, episode 6 “India”. Anupama Kundoo's Wall House is just outside the Auroville city limits, in an area designated for experimentation. I saw the episode recently so was surprised to see Auroville pop up here.
- msound 6y agoI grew up in Pondicherry, went to Pondicherry Engineering College (class of 99). I used to bike up from college to Matrimandir a lot of weekends for meditation. There are several communities within Auroville and they each operate kind of independently. Some of them welcome guests to stay with them, and I have stayed with a number of communities. So, what accusation may be true for one community may not be true for other communities. In the middle of all of that, I found Sadhana forest to be a wonderful community in Auroville that is far away from the madness of Matrimandir both physically and spiritually. Aviram and his family, along with volunteers, are doing a fantastic job of reforesting the area west of the Tindivanam highway. If you are going, once we are past this global Covid19 pandemic that is, I would highly recommend a volunteering stay at Sadhana forest.
- mysticmode 6y agoI have met many people from Auroville (or maybe Aurovillians as some would say). I have a mixed feeling about Auroville too like some other comments here. I have visited couple times. But never actually got what they are trying to do. This is another part. But I want to mention, TBH: It is like ANY OTHER ASHRAMS or communal living, I would say. Even to the one I visit often. People are different, sometimes they are nice and sometimes they behave downright silly and rude. That said, it could be a practice if you take it that way :) They are much more precious for you in the long run if you are into spiritual practice. It's like Jetsunma Tenzin Palmo puts it "Instead of seeing other people as an obstacle to our path, we recognize that they are the path. That learning on how to deal skillfully especially with unskilfuled people is how we learn, how we grow and how to begin to mature."
- billfruit 6y agoAre atheists welcome there?
- ordiman85 6y agoAuroville is open to everyone, but there are rules. In the visitor centre you can read that they claim to be religion-less. For example, religious cult (e.g. monotheist prayer) is forbidden in the Matrimandir, the central monument dedicated for the practice of yoga and meditation. However, the spiritual movement behind Auroville is a kind of cult of the Mother and Sri Aurobindo. But I found Auroville habitants much less proselyte than religious communities in general. Actually it is easier to be kicked out of the community than to become one of them.
- sevencolors 6y agoWas reading about the "galaxy" concept https://www.auroville.org/contents/691 https://www.auroville.org/contents/691 > Radiating out beyond the Matrimandir Gardens are four Zones, each focusing on an important aspect of the township’s life: > Industrial (north). Cultural (north east), Residential (south/south west) and. International (west). Feels so weird and dystopian when places try to enforce some sort of segregation
- sbmthakur 6y agoSomewhat related: Sri Aurobindo studied in England and also contributed to India's freedom struggle. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Aurobindo https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Aurobindo
- weeksie 6y agoSo wild. I was there with some friends back in 2006. We didn’t go into the big orb because they were charging and we were cheap. What a random memory to relive. Lovely :)