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HSV always seemed particularly poorly understood in the society to me, e.g. with many people getting it as children due to careless parents/extended family, and
by weiming 6y ago
HSV always seemed particularly poorly understood in the society to me, e.g. with many people getting it as children due to careless parents/extended family, and the benign branding of "cold sore" as if it is related to a cold. Given that the vaccine for 1 or 2 has proved to be extremely challenging, always wondered if the public simply being more well-informed on this topic could help reduce the incidence in the population.
Asymptomatic shedding of HSV has to be considered, too. "Transmission commonly occurs from contact with an infected partner who does not have visible lesions and who may not know that he or she is infected. In persons with asymptomatic HSV-2 infections, genital HSV shedding occurs on 10.2% of days, compared to 20.1% of days among those with symptomatic infections." (https://www.cdc.gov/std/herpes/stdfact-herpes-detailed.htm https://www.cdc.gov/std/herpes/stdfact-herpes-detailed.htm)
- morningcovfefe 6y agoIt's called Herpese Simplex.. but there's nothing simple about it!
- Supermancho 6y agoFuture Man reference.
- Supermancho 6y agohttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt4975856/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4975856/
- hn_throwaway_99 6y ago> e.g. with many people getting it as children due to careless parents/extended family Puhleeze. HSV is present in the majority of the population. Branding parents as "careless" because their children get it is ridiculous.
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- nsxwolf 6y agoNot letting family members kiss your kids on the mouth and not letting your kids use other people's cups/forks etc? If the entire population did this there would be fewer herpes infections. edit: the downvotes are interesting. If I had made the statement "We can take steps to reduce COVID-19 transmission" I can't imagine I'd get the same result. I can only assume that people really are ashamed of having herpes and are reacting emotionally.
- hombre_fatal 6y agoWhat's your gameplan for the rest of your life? You're never going to kiss anyone or share a cup or a smoke or any of the thousands of ways that have infected the vast majority of humanity? You can even get it passing through your mom's birth canal. Your two examples of transmission are so specific that I'm not sure you know how it spreads. Just extended family members kissing or sharing cups with your kids? What? Herpes-1 is just part of the human condition. Time to get over it. Btw, odds are that you have it. And for your own sanity, don't worry -- it doesn't mean you were making out with your family nor their kids.
- nsxwolf 6y agoI'm in the second half of my life and I married an HSV-negative. I try not to put my mouth on sketchy things.
- SketchySeaBeast 6y agoYou both got blood tests for both types of HSV before you were married I assume?
- hn_throwaway_99 6y agoYou "married an HSV-negative"? Quite the romantic.
- SketchySeaBeast 6y agoThe rate of infection is 90% worldwide.[1] It's not just careless parents and lack of awareness, it's endemic to all of mankind. Given that asymptomatic shedding occurs there's basically no way to not transmit herpes to your partner. Unless we remove kissing from our social norms, it's going to stick around. [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemiology_of_herpes_simplex https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemiology_of_herpes_simplex
- echelon 6y ago> careless parents/extended family > benign branding of "cold sore" This is a dangerous, hurtful opinion and you need to be downvoted. No one is to be shamed for this virus. A third of teenagers will acquire HSV-1 during childhood from simply putting things into their mouths. There is no way to prevent this sort of transmission. [1] Most of the world's population has the virus. [2] Given these odds, you probably have the virus yourself and may or may not be asymptomatic. The focus should be on finding a cure, not changing social norms or shaming people. The stigma is obstructing our focus. It's also impeding research, which as it may turn out, is a cause for Alzheimer's and related neurodegenerative disorders. So much suffering from something that isn't anyone's fault, yet everyone blames "bad parenting" and "sexual promiscuity" for. It's shameful and we need to do better. [1] https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db304.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db304.htm [2] https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/herpes-simplex-virus https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/herpes-simp...
- tengbretson 6y ago> This is a dangerous, hurtful opinion and you need to be downvoted. > No one is to be shamed for this virus. Don't care. If I'm going to get shamed for walking down the sidewalk without a mask then I sure as shit am going to shame an adult that kisses their child when they have an infectious sore on there face.
- SketchySeaBeast 6y agoOr kisses their loved one when they are asymptomatic? The stigma around herpes is ridiculous.
- tengbretson 6y agoUnrelated to the discussion at hand. Yes there is the possibility of asymptomatic transmission. The OP said no one should be shamed for this virus. I'm saying bullshit. If someone sneezes on you when they have the flu, yes, shame on them. If someone kisses their child when they have a herpetic sore, yes, shame on them.