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remote dev (and I guess now codespaces) is one of those "clear differentiators" that is actually getting me to move away from intellij and friends.

by dastbe 6y ago

rubber_duck 6y ago
I wish IntelliJ moves in this direction so bad - would gladly pay more for this. I tried switching to VS Code for my current project yesterday and it's the best VS Code scenario out of my projects - backend RoR frontend React/TS. TypeScript aspect is amazing but the Rails part is nowhere close to RubyMine. .NET (Core) was inferior to any IDE (even Xamarin ones) last time I tried it (~6 months back). IntelliJ Rider has been quite an amazing discovery in this regard - I prefer it to Visual Studio. And then there are things like mobile development which VS Code has realistically no chance of touching. Any language I can think of other than TypeScript - VSCode just cannot come close to IntelliJ support. I would pay for the ability to have a desktop machine on which I could SSH develop from say a Windows tablet/2in1 with integrated 4G and hardware powerful enough to run the client editor + productivity apps and has portability + battery life (say some intel low power series + 8GB ram)
- Aeolun 6y ago
  I agree. I’d love remote intellij development, but it doesn’t seem to be something they’re interested in at all.
- Wintereise 6y ago
  In my experience, it can't even do it for TS either. WebStorm seems to understand Microsoft's TS better than the VS Code Plugin. Complex refactors actually work.
  - rubber_duck 6y ago
    RubyMine can become a resource hog - even when it's not acting up the VSCode responsiveness is a noticeable improvement for me (and I'm working on a i9 MBP with 32gb ram !) - for example code refreshes analysis hints and opens autocomplete much faster. I don't trust any refactoring tool to do cross file refactoring correctly in JS/TypeScript and the code navigation stuff in VSCode has been rock solid for me - I don't really miss anything and it's a much faster environment to work in - if I just had to do JS/TS development I could switch without any issues.
- zyngaro 6y ago
  Vscode has an excellent support for golang too. Python support also is good but sometimes it’s hit or miss with some native dependencies.
  - meddlepal 6y ago
    VScodes support for Golang is meh. My entire team has switched to using Intellij/Goland.
- sally1620 6y ago
  VSCode team's highest priority is Javascript/Typescript, everything else is just trailing behind. Python and C++ are the very well supported ones. .NET is still really bad.
- square_usual 6y ago
  Try solargraph for VSCode. I've found it about as useful as RubyMine.
ric2b 6y ago
But intellij has had remote dev support for longer than vscode has even existed, what am I missing?

remote dev (and I guess now codespaces) is one of those "clear differentiators" that is actually getting me to move away from intellij and friends.

by dastbe 6y ago

remote dev (and I guess now codespaces) is one of those "clear differentiators" that is actually getting me to move away from intellij and friends.

rubber_duck 6y ago

I wish IntelliJ moves in this direction so bad - would gladly pay more for this. I tried switching to VS Code for my current project yesterday and it's the best VS Code scenario out of my projects - backend RoR frontend React/TS. TypeScript aspect is amazing but the Rails part is nowhere close to RubyMine. .NET (Core) was inferior to any IDE (even Xamarin ones) last time I tried it (~6 months back). IntelliJ Rider has been quite an amazing discovery in this regard - I prefer it to Visual Studio. And then there are things like mobile development which VS Code has realistically no chance of touching. Any language I can think of other than TypeScript - VSCode just cannot come close to IntelliJ support. I would pay for the ability to have a desktop machine on which I could SSH develop from say a Windows tablet/2in1 with integrated 4G and hardware powerful enough to run the client editor + productivity apps and has portability + battery life (say some intel low power series + 8GB ram)

Aeolun 6y ago
I agree. I’d love remote intellij development, but it doesn’t seem to be something they’re interested in at all.
Wintereise 6y ago
In my experience, it can't even do it for TS either. WebStorm seems to understand Microsoft's TS better than the VS Code Plugin. Complex refactors actually work.
- rubber_duck 6y ago
  RubyMine can become a resource hog - even when it's not acting up the VSCode responsiveness is a noticeable improvement for me (and I'm working on a i9 MBP with 32gb ram !) - for example code refreshes analysis hints and opens autocomplete much faster. I don't trust any refactoring tool to do cross file refactoring correctly in JS/TypeScript and the code navigation stuff in VSCode has been rock solid for me - I don't really miss anything and it's a much faster environment to work in - if I just had to do JS/TS development I could switch without any issues.
zyngaro 6y ago
Vscode has an excellent support for golang too. Python support also is good but sometimes it’s hit or miss with some native dependencies.
- meddlepal 6y ago
  VScodes support for Golang is meh. My entire team has switched to using Intellij/Goland.
sally1620 6y ago
VSCode team's highest priority is Javascript/Typescript, everything else is just trailing behind. Python and C++ are the very well supported ones. .NET is still really bad.
square_usual 6y ago
Try solargraph for VSCode. I've found it about as useful as RubyMine.

ric2b 6y ago

But intellij has had remote dev support for longer than vscode has even existed, what am I missing?