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Inkscape 1.0

533 points by dragonsh 6y ago

ainar-g 6y ago
Grand congratulations to the team! Inkscape is an invaluable tool, especially for amateur vexillologists like me.
- MattRix 6y ago
  To save other people the trouble, vexillology is the study of flags.
  - toyg 6y ago
    The British used to be great vexillologists, clearly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9W1zTEuKLY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9W1zTEuKLY
sccxy 6y ago
Mirror? 502 Bad Gateway nginx/1.14.0 (Ubuntu)
- dragonsh 6y ago
  Try https://inkscape.org/release/inkscape-1.0/ https://inkscape.org/release/inkscape-1.0/
- kozhevnikov 6y ago
  https://archive.li/mMN8K#Inkscape_1.0 https://archive.li/mMN8K#Inkscape_1.0
llarsson 6y ago
Wonderful to hear that it is now a native application in macOS that does not require XQuartz! Perhaps related: Inkscape has always felt quite laggy for me, even with my extremely basic needs. I pretty much just make text in boxes and connect them with arrows. So together with all these new lovely features, I hope that performance is improved in this release also.
- bluedino 6y ago
  Also, it still runs on older versions back to 10.11
- oxguy3 6y ago
  The 1.0 version for macOS is a preview release and it still has performance issues, but performance fixes are coming, according to the macOS download page. Honestly, I'm so blown away with the beautiful native macOS support that I'm perfectly content to wait a bit longer for better performance.
  - travisgriggs 6y ago
    Are you sure? I was at 1.0.0rc yesterday, and the brew bumped me up to 1.0.0. Or maybe you are saying that macOS 1.0 version is still sort of "beta"? Either way, I love Inkscape. I draw all of our apps icons as acts with it and then use it to create all of our pdf icons of iOS and convert to drawables for Android.
- Tagbert 6y ago
  Yes, early on I was trying to use Inkscape on Mac OS. I finally switched to Affinity Desginer and was much happier. Hopefully, they fix the performance so that Inkscape can finally be a reasonable option on Mac OS.
chaos_a 6y ago
Anyone else getting a 502 error on this page? I started using inkscape recently for editing a few svg's and was impressed at how much this free program can do while also being easy to use. I've been using gimp for a long time now and still get lost in it's poorly laid out UI, with inkscape I can usually find what I'm looking for on the first try.
dragonsh 6y ago
Please try another link (if you are getting 502 error) https://inkscape.org/release/inkscape-1.0/ https://inkscape.org/release/inkscape-1.0/
dest 6y ago
Congrats. In my opinion Inkscape shines in usability (vs Gimp that I could never grasp for example)
- bonoboTP 6y ago
  I'm relatively a power user and can mostly work my way through most any software and regularly help people with software I've never used before, but I just can't wrap my head around Gimp for some reason, everything seems way too complicated. When I Google the solution to something I can do in 3 minutes in Paint.NET, it often turns out to require lots of unintuitive steps, I hit edge cases, look up bug reports and feature requests and then just decide to use Pinta instead. And other people seem to work fine with it, so it must be that people are just wired differntly or something.
  - AsyncAwait 6y ago
    Counterpoint; I suck at Photoshop, but for some reason Gimp has resonated with me and I reach for it over PS even if PS is technically more capable.
    - Valgrim 6y ago
      Gimp is also technically very capable, especially when combined with G'mic plugins. I've used both software for different projects and I think I could switch permanently to Gimp if it could get better in two ways: - Non-destructive filters, AKA "layer effects" or "smart filters" (I've read it's supposed do come in some distant future when the GEGL overhaul is finished). A node-based nondestructive filter system would be awesome - Smarter selection tools. Current tools create little to no gradient in the mask they create, and it's a pain to refine a selection after creating it. Sure there are workarounds, but it feels repetitive and inefficient. Sure the interface is a bit all over the place but it's not so bad, and it's free!
    - shawnz 6y ago
      Same here - Photoshop is full of confusing idioms that make it hard for me to get things done, whereas I find Gimp is simple and straightforward. I suspect a lot of people who think Gimp is hard to use haven't used it in the last 5-10 years (it's been improved significantly in that time).
zelphirkalt 6y ago
Very importantly, Inkscape is also a very successful free software project, which ensures, that Inkscape's functionality will remain free for as long as its license is enforced.
- lonelappde 6y ago
  There's no need to enforce any license. Inkscape is free and open for as long no one takes away the license by force.
eduardoboss 6y ago
I just used it to do a job for my company. it was very good! https://imgur.com/a/wFxf3jl https://imgur.com/a/wFxf3jl
- mcnesium 6y ago
  OT: is that level difference to baseline in the logo intended?
  - lonelappde 6y ago
    It's pretend handwritten.
    - eduardoboss 6y ago
      yes, for a software architect that used inkscape for the first time, I guess that have things to improve, but was a good experience.
    - jobigoud 6y ago
      I think he means between solo and pizza.
  - detritus 6y ago
    Oh, damn you. *twitches.
vadasambar 6y ago
Might sound weird but I prefer to use Inkscape for basic image editing over Gimp on Linux because of how user friendly and intuitive it is.
- tasuki 6y ago
  I also prefer Inkscape over Gimp, but they have completely different use cases. Inkscape is for vectors (almost anything created primarily on a computer) while Gimp is for rasters (when your input consists of pixels - eg a photo).
kristopolous 6y ago
Well that server didn't last long
amelius 6y ago
I absolutely love Inkscape! Some features I'd like to see in upcoming releases: - Calligraphic strokes, and the possibility to convert them to paths. - Better UX for filters (e.g. adding a drop shadow and changing the parameters could be simpler)
- jansan 6y ago
  May I ask what (probably commerical) software you are using that already implements calligraphic strokes?
  - amelius 6y ago
    Adobe Illustrator already implemented it years ago. I used AI a lot for creating cartoons. But then at some point I completely moved away from MS-Windows, which meant that I couldn't use AI any longer. I've been missing the calligraphic strokes option ever since (including the ability to convert these strokes to paths). For more information about why calligraphic strokes are essential for drawing/inking cartoons: https://www.amazon.com/dp/150671191X https://www.amazon.com/dp/150671191X
- Glyptodon 6y ago
  How do calligraphic strokes differ from the built in calligraphy pen tool that lets you set a bunch of params to be controlled by your input device (tilt, pressure, etc.)? Is the idea that you make something that looks like similar pen input but in a more bezier-like way?
  - amelius 6y ago
    The idea is that you start with a path (say a rectangle), and then you select (probably in the stroke properties box) a calligraphic pen profile (usually an ellipse under an angle) and then the entire path (the rectangle in this case) will be drawn with that specific calligraphic stroke. This would work for any path. And you could change the Bezier points after you applied the calligraphic pen to the stroke.
foxhop 6y ago
I created the Remarkbox logo with Inkscape. Was a lot of fun to learn (watched a few hours of YouTube to get an acceptable amount of understanding)
laydn 6y ago
Inkscape is outstanding. Thanks for all the hard work. My one and only complaint is, for very large drawings, selecting a large number of elements and moving them is very slooooooow. It would be great if, going forward, performance improvements can be made.
- microcolonel 6y ago
  Hopefully since this is such a sudden and severe regression in canvas performance, it is related to a shallow bug rather than an architectural misadventure.
Al-Khwarizmi 6y ago
Congratulations to everyone who have made this possible. Inkscape may not be perfect and perhaps it's not the best tool for graphics professionals but, as a person who is really bad at anything having to do with graphic design, drawing, layout design and graphics programs, it's the only vector graphics program I have been able to learn at a relatively decent level, allowing me to make effective diagrams for slides, papers, etc. With every other vector graphics editor I've tried, the learning curve felt to me like climbing a vertical ice wall. So kudos for how intuitive it is, and hoping for many new versions to come.
Communitivity 6y ago
Congrats on a v1.0 and thank you for all the hard work. I've used Inkscape & Gimp & script-fu as a professional-grade Adobe CS replacement for a some time, and it works very well. There are some bumps and a lot of DIY, but the experience gets better every year. I am also in the process of teaching my daughter to use Inkscape and Gimp. I'd love to see the wiki back up, and more v1.0 examples of scripting. Ideally there would be a Inkscape specific Scheme-based language for scripting, with scripts not needing to be packaged as extensions but loaded into a directory. Insert 'I'd do it myself, but..' lame excuses here. I'd love to, but other projects occupy my time.
rhythmofrest 6y ago
There are some absolutely huge changes in here. And they fixed my (least) favourite bug, which is that Line Height basically didn't work. Not to mention HiDPI. As a Surface Pro user, it's well worth the upgrade.
Andrew_nenakhov 6y ago
I love Inkscape, and all I wish for it is to take hints from modern design tools like Sketch and Figma, so it would stop look and feel like it is still in 2005. Sketch has so many small life-improving tidbits, that combined they make me 50 times more productive when drawing anything, than in Inkscape.
- lonelappde 6y ago
  Do you think the team is opposed, unaware, or starved for development resources? Inkscape isn't "it". It's "us".
- danimal88 6y ago
  I did a lot of tasks in inkscape for a while and switched to Google slides oddly enough. Of course it's a significantly smaller subset of features, but once you get good with it, it's very powerful. That said, I would be happy to switch back for a lot of things now that native macOS support is on the table. I think the big advantages I saw in slides is the collaboration and iteration (you just make another slide and hack) instead of cluttering a workspace and then having to collaborate or be a gate keeper on a local file. Super excited to give this a whirl though!
- myu701 6y ago
  > so it would stop look and feel like it is still in 2005 Please don't do this, or if you do, leave an option for those of us long-term users who are used to the existing UI. Between the Office Ribbon, Metro/Modern/WinRT/UWP/WinUI 3, Material design, I've up to my ears in flat, wasted space UIs designed to look as empty as possible in the name of 'cleanliness' and I'd hate to have my primary vector editor fall victim to the 2010s UI dark ages.
  - Andrew_nenakhov 6y ago
    I wasn't talking about visual gimmicks at all, but about capabilities to point the line to center of a pixel, mask layers, grouping, repeat-modes, automatic rulers, etc. Things you don't even see but without which it is damn hard to live without.
cs702 6y ago
Inkscape is one of the most impressive examples of free/libre open-source software (FLOSS). It's developed by a friendly, transparent, well-run community of developers, writers and translators, testers, and designers. As someone who has used Inkscape for well over a decade on desktop Linux, I continue to be impressed at how nice it is, how well it works, and how much it does. It's really a shining example of not-for-profit software development. FYI, a short essay on the history of the project was just posted on its website: https://inkscape.org/news/2020/05/04/roots-and-shoots-inkscape-project/ https://inkscape.org/news/2020/05/04/roots-and-shoots-inksca...
- agumonkey 6y ago
  I may be misguided but it was also low on the radar of big graphical applications in the linux world. For years all I saw was gimp gimp gimp then one day a few people started to mention inkscape. Since then it has been a constant improvement.
  - erikbye 6y ago
    They're not competing.
  - pedrogpimenta 6y ago
    They are very different in nature, and by their nature, Gimp is much more used/needed, hence its popularity. Think Photoshop and Illustrator. Photoshop is much much more popular in brand than Illustrator. And actually, Gimp is to Photoshop as Inkscape is to Illustrator, so the analogy is perfect.
    - agumonkey 6y ago
      gimp is a lot less polished than inkscape, that's what surprised me about inkscape low profile
      - prox 6y ago
        Gimps community was never very inviting nor open when I used it.
xvilka 6y ago
Only GIMP 3 release left, to finally ditch GTK 2[1] and Python 2[2]. [1] https://wiki.gimp.org/wiki/Roadmap#GIMP_3.0 https://wiki.gimp.org/wiki/Roadmap#GIMP_3.0 [2] https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/issues/4368 https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/issues/4368
- sleavey 6y ago
  Oh, so is GTK 2 the reason why we still have Python 2 as the default `python` command on Debian?
  - 4gotunameagain 6y ago
    I don't think it's the sole reason, but all these are changing :) https://wiki.debian.org/Python/2Removal https://wiki.debian.org/Python/2Removal
  - gombosg 6y ago
    I don't think so, in Fedora already python == python3. I guess it's a matter of breaking & fixing many packages.
  - CameronNemo 6y ago
    No, those dependencies are unrelated but both inkscaoe and gimp switched to gtk3 and python3 on a major release cycle.
rusticpenn 6y ago
Used Inkscape for all pictures on my PhD work and the papers. Love it.
- siver_john 6y ago
  This right here, I am in the exact same boat. Much better than making them in powerpoint. And even though we have a (sort of) lab adobe CS key, all of my computers run linux and we only have like 5 keys which makes the process quite silly. Now I just need to finish the figures for this paper so I can update to this newest version. But everyone in my lab is quite excited about it.
- itcrowd 6y ago
  Same here! It's perfect for making the graphics look consistent & appealing.
rhengles 6y ago
I use Inkscape from a long time, and it's generally a very good experience. The only thing I tried to do recently that didn't work was to open an .eps file provided by Google (the official Google Play button - they do not have .svg files, but even Apple has for their App Store). It couldn't directly open the file, I searched for tools to convert it but nothing worked. The only program that could open it was Adobe Illustrator, from there I could export it to .svg. I'd hope Inkscape could open .eps files AND Google to provide a open standard format for their vector files.
neltnerb 6y ago
Congratulations! I've been using you for at least a decade, been more user friendly for me than Illustrator with as many features and only getting better. Thanks!
azangru 6y ago
Lots of love expressed here about Inkscape and GIMP. I am curious - does anyone here use Krita? How does it compare to either? What is its place in the graphics toolbox?
- scubadude 6y ago
  It is great for digital painting (that's what I know it for)
- siver_john 6y ago
  From what I've looked into it, and now I'm a novice is it's build more for illustrations. I think of inkscape more as a graphics designer software for making images and logos and things which you might use for a company logo. Where as Krita is more artistic in nature so like paintings and things (web comics). At least that has been my thoughts from my minimal exposure to both. Though I'm sure you can easily do all in either.
- quantummkv 6y ago
  Krita is more of a digital painting and artwork focused app. It can be used for raster editing or vector editing, but it is not optimized for that.
- schrijver 6y ago
  You can use Krita if you want to create illustrations or drawings not by modifying vectors (like in Inkscape) but by drawing with a digital brush. It’s pixel based like GIMP, which can also do digital drawing but with less ease and sophistication I imagine than in Krita. Whether it’s useful to you really depends on your illustration style, it’s probably less suited for a flat and vectory look. It’s more for things like storyboarding or other forms of digital painting.
asimjalis 6y ago
I am getting 502 Bad Gateway.
BiteCode_dev 6y ago
Inkscape is a fantastic product and it can be used for some many unexpected things: editing a PDF, vectorizing an image, creating a pixel perfect resume... I'm amazed it just reached v1.
indymike 6y ago
As someone who has used Inkscape for what seems like forever, thanks to everyone who has worked on it. Looking forward to tweaking some SVG assets later today with it.
hahamrfunnyguy 6y ago
I really like Inkscape. I've been using it since the first release in 2003. I do all of my illustration with it. If I need to print, then I will bring the artwork into Illustrator and adjust the colors. Compared to Illustrator, it's very fast and lightweight.
- mark-r 6y ago
  Why do you need to adjust the colors in Illustrator?
cat199 6y ago
amazing work - remember sodipodi and then inkscape first coming out - looking forward to trying native quartz and of course on linux side note - anyone know of an mspaint style 'simple' raster image editor? use gimp currently but sometimes I just want the simplicity
- rhabarba 6y ago
  Krita maybe?
hajderr 6y ago
Is this good for professional work, Illustrator seems more solid? Great FOSS still though
closed 6y ago
Excited to see! I had to pick up inkscape over the last month for--of all things--machine embroidery. It has a python extension called inkstitch for creating patterns. At first it was very confusing, but I'm slowly realizing that where tools like Sketch give a very clean, simple UX, inkscape often has the extra functionality I need!
rhabarba 6y ago
I'd still take Affinity Designer over Inkscape any day. Being free is not the only thing that counts in a software.
- noahadavis 6y ago
  Affinity Designer also lacks features compared to Inkscape, so paying more (than nothing) does not necessarily get you a better product.
  - rhabarba 6y ago
    But a better, more consistent user interface. (This is my personal opinion though.)
seventh-chord 6y ago
I can appreciate inkscape as a tool, but I always dread starting it, because it somehow takes 10 seconds to start up. What is it doing in those 10 seconds?
- lewiscollard 6y ago
  That is definitely abnormal. For me (on an i5-3350P (!) Linux junk desktop from Hell) it starts up in about one second, so eomething is definitely wrong (or you're using an even worse machine than I am, in which case something _else_ is definitely wrong). Maybe one of the Inkscape support channels could help you here?
  - seventh-chord 6y ago
    I'm on a athlon x4 860k at the moment, which according to benchmarks is marginally slower than your CPU. Startup times certainly seem to be CPU bound, it pins one core to 100% during startup. This means they somehow are spending something to the tune of 1e10 cpu cycles to start a vector editor. When inkscape is started up they use around 70 mb of ram. If they just store everything they need in ram in a linear file and load that at startup, the program would launch in a fraction of a second on an SSD.
cmrdporcupine 6y ago
Inkscape looks to have made very impressive progress. The one feature I'm missing before I can use it is multipage support, to be able to print a large image across several sheets of paper (which can then be taped together, etc.) Apparently this isn't in there because SVG has no notion of such a thing?
- Theodores 6y ago
  This is a feature I have never wanted or needed. Even if desired I could use the operating system print driver to use lots of pages for a large drawing or embed lots of SVG drawings in an HTML document that had a print stylesheet to give the pagination needed. Now one showstopper on Inkscape for me has been support for SVG viewbox where the origin is centred on the drawing rather than in a corner.
- Glyptodon 6y ago
  Sort of wonder if this could happen at the system print dialog level rather than inside specific applications.
  - cmrdporcupine 6y ago
    Part of the problem is being able to keep the scale of the original document. That is, I have a document with an image of a ski 175cm long, and when I print it I need it to be 175cm in the real world, as I am using it as a template for cutting material (if only I had a giant CNC machine...). So far I have not found a way to get system print dialogs to do this for me. I can take a PDF or PS file and print them, but the scale management is rudimentary. Somehow I was able to do these things easier with 1990s DTP tools? In the end Microsoft Publisher has worked for me. Sort of.
merricksb 6y ago
Other recent discussions: Inkscape 1.0 Release Candidate – https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22855357 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22855357 (710 points, 23 days ago, 157 comments) Inkscape 1.0 Beta 1 – https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21001969 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21001969 (603 points, 7 months ago, 167 comments) Inkscape launches versions 0.92.4 and 1.0 alpha – https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18940568 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18940568 (299 points, Jan 18 2019, 68 comments)
- Vinnl 6y ago
  Ha, and for this specific release: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23071341 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23071341 Including an extensive comment by dang explaining why they didn't have it hit the front page: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23071428 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23071428
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mdorazio 6y ago
Guess I'm in the minority. While Inkscape is incredibly powerful and a great OSS option for vector editing, the UI has simply never made sense to me. After using Illustrator for 10+ years, every time I try to do something in Inkscape I find myself either lost or frustrated that buttons and options don't do what I think they will. I feel like it's in the same land as Blender was before 2.8 (I'm a big fan of the 2.8 changes for usability).
- ramraj07 6y ago
  Inkscape seems like a much more natural successor of something like Corel Draw, and as someone who grew up doing things on that program, inkscape has always made the most sense to me. So it's probably just familiarity than anything else. I can definitely attest that inkscape has a very deterministic and thoughtful UX and workflow process.
  - EvanAnderson 6y ago
    I'll second this assessment. I used a ton of Corel Draw in the 90s thru the early 2000s. Inkscape feels like a spiritual successor. I was productive with it almost immediately.
- globular-toast 6y ago
  After riding a skateboard for 10+ years every time I try to ride a bicycle I find myself either lost of frustrated that pedals and levers don't do what I think they will.
- deleted 6y ago
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rrmm 6y ago
Nice to see Inkscape continue to grow. I still get a lot of use out of it myself. (And to toot my own tooter, I did some work on the pencil interpolation code. I feel happy to have contributed something to a project like this).
werber 6y ago
I wanted to love this on MacOS so badly, but it was too laggy for basic usage on a 2020 MBA. I have always found it fine on my less capable Debian box, but, but Affinity Designer has become my go to on Mac.
javajosh 6y ago
I really like Inkscape, it compares favorably with Affinity Designer. My only wish is that it was written for the browser. A tool like this would actually be a great starting point for SVG web apps, IMHO. Plus interactive SVG drawing has been implemented about 3000 times, and it would be great to see some best practice libs become standard.
JohnTHaller 6y ago
The portable version for use in cloud folders, USB drives, and machines without admin rights has been posted as well: https://portableapps.com/news/2020-05-06--inkscape-portable-1.0-released https://portableapps.com/news/2020-05-06--inkscape-portable-...
helij 6y ago
Inkscape is amazing. I am using it for years now on all three major operating systems. I am a complete amateur as far as graphic design is concerned but I just used it to add a text to cartoon that designer did in...wait for it....Inkscape. Very user friendly for easy tasks but I am struggling with more complex edits. But that is just because I never upgraded my knowledge since both Gimp and Inkscape provide everything I need. Thumbs up to Inkscape from me!
nuritzi 6y ago
I've seen some really amazing things produced by the Inkscape community. One of my favorite demos was at GNOME Asia a few years ago where I saw a shoe company from Indonesia that exclusively uses open source tools like Inkscape to produce their line of shoes (https://coscup.org/2018/programs/using-inkscape-to-design-shoes/ https://coscup.org/2018/programs/using-inkscape-to-design-sh...). It's awesome to see this Inkscape 1.0 release and it's incredible to think about how much impact Inkscape has had on the open source design tool landscape. I'm the Sr. Open Source Program Manager at GitLab, btw. Thanks @Inkscape for being part of the GitLab for Open Source community!

Inkscape 1.0

533 points by dragonsh 6y ago

ainar-g 6y ago

Grand congratulations to the team! Inkscape is an invaluable tool, especially for amateur vexillologists like me.

MattRix 6y ago
To save other people the trouble, vexillology is the study of flags.
- toyg 6y ago
  The British used to be great vexillologists, clearly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9W1zTEuKLY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9W1zTEuKLY

sccxy 6y ago

Mirror? 502 Bad Gateway nginx/1.14.0 (Ubuntu)

dragonsh 6y ago
Try https://inkscape.org/release/inkscape-1.0/ https://inkscape.org/release/inkscape-1.0/
kozhevnikov 6y ago
https://archive.li/mMN8K#Inkscape_1.0 https://archive.li/mMN8K#Inkscape_1.0

llarsson 6y ago

Wonderful to hear that it is now a native application in macOS that does not require XQuartz! Perhaps related: Inkscape has always felt quite laggy for me, even with my extremely basic needs. I pretty much just make text in boxes and connect them with arrows. So together with all these new lovely features, I hope that performance is improved in this release also.

bluedino 6y ago
Also, it still runs on older versions back to 10.11
oxguy3 6y ago
The 1.0 version for macOS is a preview release and it still has performance issues, but performance fixes are coming, according to the macOS download page. Honestly, I'm so blown away with the beautiful native macOS support that I'm perfectly content to wait a bit longer for better performance.
- travisgriggs 6y ago
  Are you sure? I was at 1.0.0rc yesterday, and the brew bumped me up to 1.0.0. Or maybe you are saying that macOS 1.0 version is still sort of "beta"? Either way, I love Inkscape. I draw all of our apps icons as acts with it and then use it to create all of our pdf icons of iOS and convert to drawables for Android.
Tagbert 6y ago
Yes, early on I was trying to use Inkscape on Mac OS. I finally switched to Affinity Desginer and was much happier. Hopefully, they fix the performance so that Inkscape can finally be a reasonable option on Mac OS.

chaos_a 6y ago

Anyone else getting a 502 error on this page? I started using inkscape recently for editing a few svg's and was impressed at how much this free program can do while also being easy to use. I've been using gimp for a long time now and still get lost in it's poorly laid out UI, with inkscape I can usually find what I'm looking for on the first try.

dragonsh 6y ago

Please try another link (if you are getting 502 error) https://inkscape.org/release/inkscape-1.0/ https://inkscape.org/release/inkscape-1.0/

dest 6y ago

Congrats. In my opinion Inkscape shines in usability (vs Gimp that I could never grasp for example)

bonoboTP 6y ago
I'm relatively a power user and can mostly work my way through most any software and regularly help people with software I've never used before, but I just can't wrap my head around Gimp for some reason, everything seems way too complicated. When I Google the solution to something I can do in 3 minutes in Paint.NET, it often turns out to require lots of unintuitive steps, I hit edge cases, look up bug reports and feature requests and then just decide to use Pinta instead. And other people seem to work fine with it, so it must be that people are just wired differntly or something.
- AsyncAwait 6y ago
  Counterpoint; I suck at Photoshop, but for some reason Gimp has resonated with me and I reach for it over PS even if PS is technically more capable.
  - Valgrim 6y ago
    Gimp is also technically very capable, especially when combined with G'mic plugins. I've used both software for different projects and I think I could switch permanently to Gimp if it could get better in two ways: - Non-destructive filters, AKA "layer effects" or "smart filters" (I've read it's supposed do come in some distant future when the GEGL overhaul is finished). A node-based nondestructive filter system would be awesome - Smarter selection tools. Current tools create little to no gradient in the mask they create, and it's a pain to refine a selection after creating it. Sure there are workarounds, but it feels repetitive and inefficient. Sure the interface is a bit all over the place but it's not so bad, and it's free!
  - shawnz 6y ago
    Same here - Photoshop is full of confusing idioms that make it hard for me to get things done, whereas I find Gimp is simple and straightforward. I suspect a lot of people who think Gimp is hard to use haven't used it in the last 5-10 years (it's been improved significantly in that time).

zelphirkalt 6y ago

Very importantly, Inkscape is also a very successful free software project, which ensures, that Inkscape's functionality will remain free for as long as its license is enforced.

lonelappde 6y ago
There's no need to enforce any license. Inkscape is free and open for as long no one takes away the license by force.

eduardoboss 6y ago

I just used it to do a job for my company. it was very good! https://imgur.com/a/wFxf3jl https://imgur.com/a/wFxf3jl

mcnesium 6y ago
OT: is that level difference to baseline in the logo intended?
- lonelappde 6y ago
  It's pretend handwritten.
  - eduardoboss 6y ago
    yes, for a software architect that used inkscape for the first time, I guess that have things to improve, but was a good experience.
  - jobigoud 6y ago
    I think he means between solo and pizza.
- detritus 6y ago
  Oh, damn you. *twitches.

vadasambar 6y ago

Might sound weird but I prefer to use Inkscape for basic image editing over Gimp on Linux because of how user friendly and intuitive it is.

tasuki 6y ago
I also prefer Inkscape over Gimp, but they have completely different use cases. Inkscape is for vectors (almost anything created primarily on a computer) while Gimp is for rasters (when your input consists of pixels - eg a photo).

kristopolous 6y ago

Well that server didn't last long

amelius 6y ago

I absolutely love Inkscape! Some features I'd like to see in upcoming releases: - Calligraphic strokes, and the possibility to convert them to paths. - Better UX for filters (e.g. adding a drop shadow and changing the parameters could be simpler)

jansan 6y ago
May I ask what (probably commerical) software you are using that already implements calligraphic strokes?
- amelius 6y ago
  Adobe Illustrator already implemented it years ago. I used AI a lot for creating cartoons. But then at some point I completely moved away from MS-Windows, which meant that I couldn't use AI any longer. I've been missing the calligraphic strokes option ever since (including the ability to convert these strokes to paths). For more information about why calligraphic strokes are essential for drawing/inking cartoons: https://www.amazon.com/dp/150671191X https://www.amazon.com/dp/150671191X
Glyptodon 6y ago
How do calligraphic strokes differ from the built in calligraphy pen tool that lets you set a bunch of params to be controlled by your input device (tilt, pressure, etc.)? Is the idea that you make something that looks like similar pen input but in a more bezier-like way?
- amelius 6y ago
  The idea is that you start with a path (say a rectangle), and then you select (probably in the stroke properties box) a calligraphic pen profile (usually an ellipse under an angle) and then the entire path (the rectangle in this case) will be drawn with that specific calligraphic stroke. This would work for any path. And you could change the Bezier points after you applied the calligraphic pen to the stroke.

foxhop 6y ago

I created the Remarkbox logo with Inkscape. Was a lot of fun to learn (watched a few hours of YouTube to get an acceptable amount of understanding)

laydn 6y ago

Inkscape is outstanding. Thanks for all the hard work. My one and only complaint is, for very large drawings, selecting a large number of elements and moving them is very slooooooow. It would be great if, going forward, performance improvements can be made.

microcolonel 6y ago
Hopefully since this is such a sudden and severe regression in canvas performance, it is related to a shallow bug rather than an architectural misadventure.

Al-Khwarizmi 6y ago

Congratulations to everyone who have made this possible. Inkscape may not be perfect and perhaps it's not the best tool for graphics professionals but, as a person who is really bad at anything having to do with graphic design, drawing, layout design and graphics programs, it's the only vector graphics program I have been able to learn at a relatively decent level, allowing me to make effective diagrams for slides, papers, etc. With every other vector graphics editor I've tried, the learning curve felt to me like climbing a vertical ice wall. So kudos for how intuitive it is, and hoping for many new versions to come.

Communitivity 6y ago

Congrats on a v1.0 and thank you for all the hard work. I've used Inkscape & Gimp & script-fu as a professional-grade Adobe CS replacement for a some time, and it works very well. There are some bumps and a lot of DIY, but the experience gets better every year. I am also in the process of teaching my daughter to use Inkscape and Gimp. I'd love to see the wiki back up, and more v1.0 examples of scripting. Ideally there would be a Inkscape specific Scheme-based language for scripting, with scripts not needing to be packaged as extensions but loaded into a directory. Insert 'I'd do it myself, but..' lame excuses here. I'd love to, but other projects occupy my time.

rhythmofrest 6y ago

There are some absolutely huge changes in here. And they fixed my (least) favourite bug, which is that Line Height basically didn't work. Not to mention HiDPI. As a Surface Pro user, it's well worth the upgrade.

Andrew_nenakhov 6y ago

I love Inkscape, and all I wish for it is to take hints from modern design tools like Sketch and Figma, so it would stop look and feel like it is still in 2005. Sketch has so many small life-improving tidbits, that combined they make me 50 times more productive when drawing anything, than in Inkscape.

lonelappde 6y ago
Do you think the team is opposed, unaware, or starved for development resources? Inkscape isn't "it". It's "us".
danimal88 6y ago
I did a lot of tasks in inkscape for a while and switched to Google slides oddly enough. Of course it's a significantly smaller subset of features, but once you get good with it, it's very powerful. That said, I would be happy to switch back for a lot of things now that native macOS support is on the table. I think the big advantages I saw in slides is the collaboration and iteration (you just make another slide and hack) instead of cluttering a workspace and then having to collaborate or be a gate keeper on a local file. Super excited to give this a whirl though!
myu701 6y ago
> so it would stop look and feel like it is still in 2005 Please don't do this, or if you do, leave an option for those of us long-term users who are used to the existing UI. Between the Office Ribbon, Metro/Modern/WinRT/UWP/WinUI 3, Material design, I've up to my ears in flat, wasted space UIs designed to look as empty as possible in the name of 'cleanliness' and I'd hate to have my primary vector editor fall victim to the 2010s UI dark ages.
- Andrew_nenakhov 6y ago
  I wasn't talking about visual gimmicks at all, but about capabilities to point the line to center of a pixel, mask layers, grouping, repeat-modes, automatic rulers, etc. Things you don't even see but without which it is damn hard to live without.

cs702 6y ago

Inkscape is one of the most impressive examples of free/libre open-source software (FLOSS). It's developed by a friendly, transparent, well-run community of developers, writers and translators, testers, and designers. As someone who has used Inkscape for well over a decade on desktop Linux, I continue to be impressed at how nice it is, how well it works, and how much it does. It's really a shining example of not-for-profit software development. FYI, a short essay on the history of the project was just posted on its website: https://inkscape.org/news/2020/05/04/roots-and-shoots-inkscape-project/ https://inkscape.org/news/2020/05/04/roots-and-shoots-inksca...

agumonkey 6y ago
I may be misguided but it was also low on the radar of big graphical applications in the linux world. For years all I saw was gimp gimp gimp then one day a few people started to mention inkscape. Since then it has been a constant improvement.
- erikbye 6y ago
  They're not competing.
- pedrogpimenta 6y ago
  They are very different in nature, and by their nature, Gimp is much more used/needed, hence its popularity. Think Photoshop and Illustrator. Photoshop is much much more popular in brand than Illustrator. And actually, Gimp is to Photoshop as Inkscape is to Illustrator, so the analogy is perfect.
  - agumonkey 6y ago
    gimp is a lot less polished than inkscape, that's what surprised me about inkscape low profile
    - prox 6y ago
      Gimps community was never very inviting nor open when I used it.

xvilka 6y ago

Only GIMP 3 release left, to finally ditch GTK 2[1] and Python 2[2]. [1] https://wiki.gimp.org/wiki/Roadmap#GIMP_3.0 https://wiki.gimp.org/wiki/Roadmap#GIMP_3.0 [2] https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/issues/4368 https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/issues/4368

sleavey 6y ago
Oh, so is GTK 2 the reason why we still have Python 2 as the default `python` command on Debian?
- 4gotunameagain 6y ago
  I don't think it's the sole reason, but all these are changing :) https://wiki.debian.org/Python/2Removal https://wiki.debian.org/Python/2Removal
- gombosg 6y ago
  I don't think so, in Fedora already python == python3. I guess it's a matter of breaking & fixing many packages.
- CameronNemo 6y ago
  No, those dependencies are unrelated but both inkscaoe and gimp switched to gtk3 and python3 on a major release cycle.

rusticpenn 6y ago

Used Inkscape for all pictures on my PhD work and the papers. Love it.

siver_john 6y ago
This right here, I am in the exact same boat. Much better than making them in powerpoint. And even though we have a (sort of) lab adobe CS key, all of my computers run linux and we only have like 5 keys which makes the process quite silly. Now I just need to finish the figures for this paper so I can update to this newest version. But everyone in my lab is quite excited about it.
itcrowd 6y ago
Same here! It's perfect for making the graphics look consistent & appealing.

rhengles 6y ago

I use Inkscape from a long time, and it's generally a very good experience. The only thing I tried to do recently that didn't work was to open an .eps file provided by Google (the official Google Play button - they do not have .svg files, but even Apple has for their App Store). It couldn't directly open the file, I searched for tools to convert it but nothing worked. The only program that could open it was Adobe Illustrator, from there I could export it to .svg. I'd hope Inkscape could open .eps files AND Google to provide a open standard format for their vector files.

neltnerb 6y ago

Congratulations! I've been using you for at least a decade, been more user friendly for me than Illustrator with as many features and only getting better. Thanks!

azangru 6y ago

Lots of love expressed here about Inkscape and GIMP. I am curious - does anyone here use Krita? How does it compare to either? What is its place in the graphics toolbox?

scubadude 6y ago
It is great for digital painting (that's what I know it for)
siver_john 6y ago
From what I've looked into it, and now I'm a novice is it's build more for illustrations. I think of inkscape more as a graphics designer software for making images and logos and things which you might use for a company logo. Where as Krita is more artistic in nature so like paintings and things (web comics). At least that has been my thoughts from my minimal exposure to both. Though I'm sure you can easily do all in either.
quantummkv 6y ago
Krita is more of a digital painting and artwork focused app. It can be used for raster editing or vector editing, but it is not optimized for that.
schrijver 6y ago
You can use Krita if you want to create illustrations or drawings not by modifying vectors (like in Inkscape) but by drawing with a digital brush. It’s pixel based like GIMP, which can also do digital drawing but with less ease and sophistication I imagine than in Krita. Whether it’s useful to you really depends on your illustration style, it’s probably less suited for a flat and vectory look. It’s more for things like storyboarding or other forms of digital painting.

asimjalis 6y ago

I am getting 502 Bad Gateway.

BiteCode_dev 6y ago

Inkscape is a fantastic product and it can be used for some many unexpected things: editing a PDF, vectorizing an image, creating a pixel perfect resume... I'm amazed it just reached v1.

indymike 6y ago

As someone who has used Inkscape for what seems like forever, thanks to everyone who has worked on it. Looking forward to tweaking some SVG assets later today with it.

hahamrfunnyguy 6y ago

I really like Inkscape. I've been using it since the first release in 2003. I do all of my illustration with it. If I need to print, then I will bring the artwork into Illustrator and adjust the colors. Compared to Illustrator, it's very fast and lightweight.

mark-r 6y ago
Why do you need to adjust the colors in Illustrator?

cat199 6y ago

amazing work - remember sodipodi and then inkscape first coming out - looking forward to trying native quartz and of course on linux side note - anyone know of an mspaint style 'simple' raster image editor? use gimp currently but sometimes I just want the simplicity

rhabarba 6y ago
Krita maybe?

hajderr 6y ago

Is this good for professional work, Illustrator seems more solid? Great FOSS still though

closed 6y ago

Excited to see! I had to pick up inkscape over the last month for--of all things--machine embroidery. It has a python extension called inkstitch for creating patterns. At first it was very confusing, but I'm slowly realizing that where tools like Sketch give a very clean, simple UX, inkscape often has the extra functionality I need!

rhabarba 6y ago

I'd still take Affinity Designer over Inkscape any day. Being free is not the only thing that counts in a software.

noahadavis 6y ago
Affinity Designer also lacks features compared to Inkscape, so paying more (than nothing) does not necessarily get you a better product.
- rhabarba 6y ago
  But a better, more consistent user interface. (This is my personal opinion though.)

seventh-chord 6y ago

I can appreciate inkscape as a tool, but I always dread starting it, because it somehow takes 10 seconds to start up. What is it doing in those 10 seconds?

lewiscollard 6y ago
That is definitely abnormal. For me (on an i5-3350P (!) Linux junk desktop from Hell) it starts up in about one second, so eomething is definitely wrong (or you're using an even worse machine than I am, in which case something _else_ is definitely wrong). Maybe one of the Inkscape support channels could help you here?
- seventh-chord 6y ago
  I'm on a athlon x4 860k at the moment, which according to benchmarks is marginally slower than your CPU. Startup times certainly seem to be CPU bound, it pins one core to 100% during startup. This means they somehow are spending something to the tune of 1e10 cpu cycles to start a vector editor. When inkscape is started up they use around 70 mb of ram. If they just store everything they need in ram in a linear file and load that at startup, the program would launch in a fraction of a second on an SSD.

cmrdporcupine 6y ago

Inkscape looks to have made very impressive progress. The one feature I'm missing before I can use it is multipage support, to be able to print a large image across several sheets of paper (which can then be taped together, etc.) Apparently this isn't in there because SVG has no notion of such a thing?

Theodores 6y ago
This is a feature I have never wanted or needed. Even if desired I could use the operating system print driver to use lots of pages for a large drawing or embed lots of SVG drawings in an HTML document that had a print stylesheet to give the pagination needed. Now one showstopper on Inkscape for me has been support for SVG viewbox where the origin is centred on the drawing rather than in a corner.
Glyptodon 6y ago
Sort of wonder if this could happen at the system print dialog level rather than inside specific applications.
- cmrdporcupine 6y ago
  Part of the problem is being able to keep the scale of the original document. That is, I have a document with an image of a ski 175cm long, and when I print it I need it to be 175cm in the real world, as I am using it as a template for cutting material (if only I had a giant CNC machine...). So far I have not found a way to get system print dialogs to do this for me. I can take a PDF or PS file and print them, but the scale management is rudimentary. Somehow I was able to do these things easier with 1990s DTP tools? In the end Microsoft Publisher has worked for me. Sort of.

merricksb 6y ago

Other recent discussions: Inkscape 1.0 Release Candidate – https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22855357 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22855357 (710 points, 23 days ago, 157 comments) Inkscape 1.0 Beta 1 – https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21001969 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21001969 (603 points, 7 months ago, 167 comments) Inkscape launches versions 0.92.4 and 1.0 alpha – https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18940568 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18940568 (299 points, Jan 18 2019, 68 comments)

Vinnl 6y ago
Ha, and for this specific release: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23071341 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23071341 Including an extensive comment by dang explaining why they didn't have it hit the front page: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23071428 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23071428

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mdorazio 6y ago

Guess I'm in the minority. While Inkscape is incredibly powerful and a great OSS option for vector editing, the UI has simply never made sense to me. After using Illustrator for 10+ years, every time I try to do something in Inkscape I find myself either lost or frustrated that buttons and options don't do what I think they will. I feel like it's in the same land as Blender was before 2.8 (I'm a big fan of the 2.8 changes for usability).

ramraj07 6y ago
Inkscape seems like a much more natural successor of something like Corel Draw, and as someone who grew up doing things on that program, inkscape has always made the most sense to me. So it's probably just familiarity than anything else. I can definitely attest that inkscape has a very deterministic and thoughtful UX and workflow process.
- EvanAnderson 6y ago
  I'll second this assessment. I used a ton of Corel Draw in the 90s thru the early 2000s. Inkscape feels like a spiritual successor. I was productive with it almost immediately.
globular-toast 6y ago
After riding a skateboard for 10+ years every time I try to ride a bicycle I find myself either lost of frustrated that pedals and levers don't do what I think they will.
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rrmm 6y ago

Nice to see Inkscape continue to grow. I still get a lot of use out of it myself. (And to toot my own tooter, I did some work on the pencil interpolation code. I feel happy to have contributed something to a project like this).

werber 6y ago

I wanted to love this on MacOS so badly, but it was too laggy for basic usage on a 2020 MBA. I have always found it fine on my less capable Debian box, but, but Affinity Designer has become my go to on Mac.

javajosh 6y ago

I really like Inkscape, it compares favorably with Affinity Designer. My only wish is that it was written for the browser. A tool like this would actually be a great starting point for SVG web apps, IMHO. Plus interactive SVG drawing has been implemented about 3000 times, and it would be great to see some best practice libs become standard.

JohnTHaller 6y ago

The portable version for use in cloud folders, USB drives, and machines without admin rights has been posted as well: https://portableapps.com/news/2020-05-06--inkscape-portable-1.0-released https://portableapps.com/news/2020-05-06--inkscape-portable-...

helij 6y ago

Inkscape is amazing. I am using it for years now on all three major operating systems. I am a complete amateur as far as graphic design is concerned but I just used it to add a text to cartoon that designer did in...wait for it....Inkscape. Very user friendly for easy tasks but I am struggling with more complex edits. But that is just because I never upgraded my knowledge since both Gimp and Inkscape provide everything I need. Thumbs up to Inkscape from me!

nuritzi 6y ago

I've seen some really amazing things produced by the Inkscape community. One of my favorite demos was at GNOME Asia a few years ago where I saw a shoe company from Indonesia that exclusively uses open source tools like Inkscape to produce their line of shoes (https://coscup.org/2018/programs/using-inkscape-to-design-shoes/ https://coscup.org/2018/programs/using-inkscape-to-design-sh...). It's awesome to see this Inkscape 1.0 release and it's incredible to think about how much impact Inkscape has had on the open source design tool landscape. I'm the Sr. Open Source Program Manager at GitLab, btw. Thanks @Inkscape for being part of the GitLab for Open Source community!