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I suspect there's more going on here than meets the eye: - This is the first post on a new blog by somebody without a full name or any social media presence th

I suspect there's more going on here than meets the eye: - This is the first post on a new blog by somebody without a full name or any social media presence that I can find (googling "amton gaming blockchain" returns zero hits) - The company/site in question is never named or linked to - They used somebody else's credit card and don't seem to have matching ID for it Is "blockchain gaming" code for an online casino or something? If so, this is likely against GCP terms of service.

blunte 6y ago
You are completely guessing this based on very little information. There is a strong chance that you are wrong. Is your goal just to throw mud? You ignore the point of the post - that Google can and will shut some clients down with little warning and even less recourse.
- 9nGQluzmnq3M 6y ago
  Do you disagree with any of the points I've raised? I know it's a common trope here that Google does evil things just for fun, but we've only got one side of the story here and there's been a number of previous cases here of apps getting kicked out for what turned out to be pretty understandable reasons.
  - blunte 6y ago
    No one said Google did this for fun. Google appears to prioritize automated systems and bottom line over care for it's customers. And whether any of your analysis about the customer is accurate is irrelevant and not worth debate here.
- NikolaeVarius 6y ago
  "strong chance that you are wrong" Citation needed.
- floatingatoll 6y ago
  If they’re doing so because it’s an unlicensed online gambling site trying to disguise itself from regulation using blockchains, then they absolutely are correctly exercising their freedom to refuse service, and the only news here relevant to HN would be “GCP shuts down blockchain casinos”, which would be great news.
- syshum 6y ago
  The goal most likely is to defend Google well known terrible customer service. There are fan boys everywhere, Google has it far share who will never believe that Google is evil
tyingq 6y ago
>Is "blockchain gaming" code for an online casino or something? A bit of googling indicates it usually refers to tracking ownership of in-game items that players can sell/trade with each other.
- lima 6y ago
  That too, but there are indeed games running entirely on blockchains. Many of these are online gambling operations.
  - tyingq 6y ago
    I agree it can be used that way, but the specific "blockchain gaming" phrase seems much more strongly tied to in-game items.
    - oefrha 6y ago
      In-game items trading and gambling sometimes go hand in hand: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin_gambling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin_gambling (Not implying anything about this unnamed company.)
    - pwinnski 6y ago
      From someone who doesn't mention the TOS violation clearly present in their screenshots? I'd be slower to assume the best.
      - tyingq 6y ago
        I'm skeptical Google puts a lot of thought into TOS violations. I wouldn't be surprised if they just saw "blockchain" and banned the account. I even wouldn't be surprised if something only slightly more complicated was automated. There's certainly lots of illustrative examples on YouTube.
oefrha 6y ago
Yeah, notice that in the second screenshot there's a collapsed email that reads "We have recently detected your Google Cloud Platform project is violating our Terms of Service..." That email, which is likely an important one, is never expanded, and the article doesn't mention ToS violation at all, which certainly paints it in dubious light.

blunte 6y ago

You are completely guessing this based on very little information. There is a strong chance that you are wrong. Is your goal just to throw mud? You ignore the point of the post - that Google can and will shut some clients down with little warning and even less recourse.

9nGQluzmnq3M 6y ago
Do you disagree with any of the points I've raised? I know it's a common trope here that Google does evil things just for fun, but we've only got one side of the story here and there's been a number of previous cases here of apps getting kicked out for what turned out to be pretty understandable reasons.
- blunte 6y ago
  No one said Google did this for fun. Google appears to prioritize automated systems and bottom line over care for it's customers. And whether any of your analysis about the customer is accurate is irrelevant and not worth debate here.
NikolaeVarius 6y ago
"strong chance that you are wrong" Citation needed.
floatingatoll 6y ago
If they’re doing so because it’s an unlicensed online gambling site trying to disguise itself from regulation using blockchains, then they absolutely are correctly exercising their freedom to refuse service, and the only news here relevant to HN would be “GCP shuts down blockchain casinos”, which would be great news.
syshum 6y ago
The goal most likely is to defend Google well known terrible customer service. There are fan boys everywhere, Google has it far share who will never believe that Google is evil

tyingq 6y ago

>Is "blockchain gaming" code for an online casino or something? A bit of googling indicates it usually refers to tracking ownership of in-game items that players can sell/trade with each other.

lima 6y ago
That too, but there are indeed games running entirely on blockchains. Many of these are online gambling operations.
- tyingq 6y ago
  I agree it can be used that way, but the specific "blockchain gaming" phrase seems much more strongly tied to in-game items.
  - oefrha 6y ago
    In-game items trading and gambling sometimes go hand in hand: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin_gambling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin_gambling (Not implying anything about this unnamed company.)
  - pwinnski 6y ago
    From someone who doesn't mention the TOS violation clearly present in their screenshots? I'd be slower to assume the best.
    - tyingq 6y ago
      I'm skeptical Google puts a lot of thought into TOS violations. I wouldn't be surprised if they just saw "blockchain" and banned the account. I even wouldn't be surprised if something only slightly more complicated was automated. There's certainly lots of illustrative examples on YouTube.

oefrha 6y ago

Yeah, notice that in the second screenshot there's a collapsed email that reads "We have recently detected your Google Cloud Platform project is violating our Terms of Service..." That email, which is likely an important one, is never expanded, and the article doesn't mention ToS violation at all, which certainly paints it in dubious light.