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China's infections disease numbers for December 2019 were unbelievably higher than prior Decembers Dec 2017 - 700k cases - http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/201

by ceedan 6y ago

China's infections disease numbers for December 2019 were unbelievably higher than prior Decembers Dec 2017 - 700k cases - http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-01/29/c_136933793.htm http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-01/29/c_136933793.htm Dec 2018 - 712k cases - http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-01/27/c_137778435.htm http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-01/27/c_137778435.htm Dec 2019 - 1.71m cases - http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-02/01/c_138748020.htm http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-02/01/c_138748020.htm

nabakin 6y ago
Interesting. Influenza is a Class C disease. Dec 2017 - 93% of class C cases were infectious diarrhea, influenza, foot and mouth disease. Dec 2018 - 93% of class C cases were infectious diarrhea, influenza, foot and mouth disease. Dec 2019 - 98% of class C cases were infectious diarrhea, influenza, foot and mouth disease. Dec 2017 - 10 deaths were class C Dec 2018 - 16 deaths were class C Dec 2019 - 18 deaths were class C Maybe they've been misclassifying COVID-19 as influenza or this has to do with their misreporting.
- adventured 6y ago
  > Maybe they've been misclassifying COVID-19 as influenza or this has to do with their misreporting. We know that most countries have made this mistake, even if their intentions are good. We know that every authoritarian nation has intentionally misrepresented Covid cases in extreme ways. Russia for example was aggressively lying about their cases, claiming hospitalizations were pneumonia early on and not Covid. Eventually Russia was unable to maintain the lies, which is what happened in China's case as well (the lie gets overwhelmed). Back in early January The Wall Street Journal caught China lying about Covid deaths, they were putting pneumonia on the death certificates when they knew it was Covid. http://archive.is/PkRF5 http://archive.is/PkRF5
knzhou 6y ago
No, that's just how flu season works. The numbers in the US are also higher this year, and it normally ranges within a factor of ~4 from year to year depending on the dominant strains in circulation. [0] It's completely implausible that there were a million cases of COVID-19 in December. 0: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/past-seasons.html https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/past-seasons.html

by ceedan 6y ago

nabakin 6y ago

Interesting. Influenza is a Class C disease. Dec 2017 - 93% of class C cases were infectious diarrhea, influenza, foot and mouth disease. Dec 2018 - 93% of class C cases were infectious diarrhea, influenza, foot and mouth disease. Dec 2019 - 98% of class C cases were infectious diarrhea, influenza, foot and mouth disease. Dec 2017 - 10 deaths were class C Dec 2018 - 16 deaths were class C Dec 2019 - 18 deaths were class C Maybe they've been misclassifying COVID-19 as influenza or this has to do with their misreporting.

adventured 6y ago
> Maybe they've been misclassifying COVID-19 as influenza or this has to do with their misreporting. We know that most countries have made this mistake, even if their intentions are good. We know that every authoritarian nation has intentionally misrepresented Covid cases in extreme ways. Russia for example was aggressively lying about their cases, claiming hospitalizations were pneumonia early on and not Covid. Eventually Russia was unable to maintain the lies, which is what happened in China's case as well (the lie gets overwhelmed). Back in early January The Wall Street Journal caught China lying about Covid deaths, they were putting pneumonia on the death certificates when they knew it was Covid. http://archive.is/PkRF5 http://archive.is/PkRF5

knzhou 6y ago

No, that's just how flu season works. The numbers in the US are also higher this year, and it normally ranges within a factor of ~4 from year to year depending on the dominant strains in circulation. [0] It's completely implausible that there were a million cases of COVID-19 in December. 0: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/past-seasons.html https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/past-seasons.html