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What is wrong with an iPhone?

by mosselman 6y ago

roschdal 6y ago
Very expensive telephone.
- sudhirj 6y ago
  Can get the SE, which is pretty midrange unless you’re comparing it to feature phones.
  - hexmiles 6y ago
    where i am the SE is 500€. Is a LOT more than the 180€ that i payed my xiaomi. I wouldn't really call it midrange... but i guess it depends where you live? Considering another 460€ for the watch it become very expensive. Also not long ago 500€ (here) was considered a notch under top of the line. edit: as a reference, feature phone extremely rarely surpass the 100€ on amazon and are generically around 50-60€. edit: fix grammar
    - ChuckNorris89 6y ago
      Agreed, $500 might be entry level phone in US income money but in Europe(an most of the world) that's a lot of money.
      - saiya-jin 6y ago
        Its not only about can-I-affort-it. Here in Switzerland, most of my IT colleagues have android phones 1-5 years old that were never top of the line and they are fine with them, including me. With salaries that could comfortably afford them latest top apple phones every generation if they wanted. But why would they do that? Phones are not secure by default, anybody thinking otherwise is naive and uneducated, Apple is not an exception. What else does an Apple phone offer to IT guy that rest doesn't? The answer for most of us, nothing. We just run an app XYZ. And those phones are just fine for that. SE being no exception to this, its still way pricier than Android counterparts. Like most of us, for most use cases we don't buy overpriced status things with decent quality, rather stuff that has good price/quality ratio, emphasis more on quality. Same with cars, kitchen, other electronics or generally home equipment, sport equipment and so on.
- ChuckNorris89 6y ago
  While true for most people outside of highly skilled western income levels, if you can't afford an iPhone how can you afford the iWatch to go with it?
- mosselman 6y ago
  You just pay with your data when you get something like xiaomi or basically any other phone. On top of that you get a very good phone and about 5-6 years of software updates. I don’t call €500 (SE) very expensive, though it is a lot of money all at once.
bhanhfo 6y ago
No multi-user accounts possible (work/private separation) or something like Samsung Knox. This is stopping me from switching.
- simonh 6y ago
  My company recently adopted SecureMail, SecureHub and the other Citrix mobile stuff, it seems to sandbox itself from the rest of the system pretty well. It controls which apps you can cut-n-paste between or share links to for example. I think it's uses MDM under the hood to manage data sharing and permissions.
- BillinghamJ 6y ago
  They actually did just introduce support in iOS 13 for a type of MDM which does works roughly like the Google work profile thing.
ensignavenger 6y ago
There is nothing like f-droid possible on the iPhone.
sterlind 6y ago
nothing's wrong with them, it's just that I have an Android phone and don't want to get a new phone just for this.

What is wrong with an iPhone?

roschdal 6y ago

Very expensive telephone.

sudhirj 6y ago
Can get the SE, which is pretty midrange unless you’re comparing it to feature phones.
- hexmiles 6y ago
  where i am the SE is 500€. Is a LOT more than the 180€ that i payed my xiaomi. I wouldn't really call it midrange... but i guess it depends where you live? Considering another 460€ for the watch it become very expensive. Also not long ago 500€ (here) was considered a notch under top of the line. edit: as a reference, feature phone extremely rarely surpass the 100€ on amazon and are generically around 50-60€. edit: fix grammar
  - ChuckNorris89 6y ago
    Agreed, $500 might be entry level phone in US income money but in Europe(an most of the world) that's a lot of money.
    - saiya-jin 6y ago
      Its not only about can-I-affort-it. Here in Switzerland, most of my IT colleagues have android phones 1-5 years old that were never top of the line and they are fine with them, including me. With salaries that could comfortably afford them latest top apple phones every generation if they wanted. But why would they do that? Phones are not secure by default, anybody thinking otherwise is naive and uneducated, Apple is not an exception. What else does an Apple phone offer to IT guy that rest doesn't? The answer for most of us, nothing. We just run an app XYZ. And those phones are just fine for that. SE being no exception to this, its still way pricier than Android counterparts. Like most of us, for most use cases we don't buy overpriced status things with decent quality, rather stuff that has good price/quality ratio, emphasis more on quality. Same with cars, kitchen, other electronics or generally home equipment, sport equipment and so on.
ChuckNorris89 6y ago
While true for most people outside of highly skilled western income levels, if you can't afford an iPhone how can you afford the iWatch to go with it?
mosselman 6y ago
You just pay with your data when you get something like xiaomi or basically any other phone. On top of that you get a very good phone and about 5-6 years of software updates. I don’t call €500 (SE) very expensive, though it is a lot of money all at once.

bhanhfo 6y ago

No multi-user accounts possible (work/private separation) or something like Samsung Knox. This is stopping me from switching.

simonh 6y ago
My company recently adopted SecureMail, SecureHub and the other Citrix mobile stuff, it seems to sandbox itself from the rest of the system pretty well. It controls which apps you can cut-n-paste between or share links to for example. I think it's uses MDM under the hood to manage data sharing and permissions.
BillinghamJ 6y ago
They actually did just introduce support in iOS 13 for a type of MDM which does works roughly like the Google work profile thing.

ensignavenger 6y ago

There is nothing like f-droid possible on the iPhone.

sterlind 6y ago

nothing's wrong with them, it's just that I have an Android phone and don't want to get a new phone just for this.