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I think the Apple watch is (nearly) alone in being FDA-approved as a medical device, and I wouldn't trust anything that isn't. If I didn't need an iPhone to pow

I think the Apple watch is (nearly) alone in being FDA-approved as a medical device, and I wouldn't trust anything that isn't. If I didn't need an iPhone to power it I'd buy one in a heartbeat just for health reasons.

yosito 7y ago
> I'd buy one in a heartbeat I see what you did there.
BadOakOx 7y ago
"FDA-cleared" not approved. There is a huge difference: https://www.cnet.com/news/fda-approved-vs-fda-cleared-whats-the-difference/ https://www.cnet.com/news/fda-approved-vs-fda-cleared-whats-...
mosselman 7y ago
What is wrong with an iPhone?
- roschdal 7y ago
  Very expensive telephone.
  - sudhirj 7y ago
    Can get the SE, which is pretty midrange unless you’re comparing it to feature phones.
    - hexmiles 7y ago
      where i am the SE is 500€. Is a LOT more than the 180€ that i payed my xiaomi. I wouldn't really call it midrange... but i guess it depends where you live? Considering another 460€ for the watch it become very expensive. Also not long ago 500€ (here) was considered a notch under top of the line. edit: as a reference, feature phone extremely rarely surpass the 100€ on amazon and are generically around 50-60€. edit: fix grammar
      - ChuckNorris89 7y ago
        Agreed, $500 might be entry level phone in US income money but in Europe(an most of the world) that's a lot of money.
        saiya-jin 7y ago
        Its not only about can-I-affort-it. Here in Switzerland, most of my IT colleagues have android phones 1-5 years old that were never top of the line and they are fine with them, including me. With salaries that could comfortably afford them latest top apple phones every generation if they wanted. But why would they do that? Phones are not secure by default, anybody thinking otherwise is naive and uneducated, Apple is not an exception. What else does an Apple phone offer to IT guy that rest doesn't? The answer for most of us, nothing. We just run an app XYZ. And those phones are just fine for that. SE being no exception to this, its still way pricier than Android counterparts. Like most of us, for most use cases we don't buy overpriced status things with decent quality, rather stuff that has good price/quality ratio, emphasis more on quality. Same with cars, kitchen, other electronics or generally home equipment, sport equipment and so on.
  - ChuckNorris89 7y ago
    While true for most people outside of highly skilled western income levels, if you can't afford an iPhone how can you afford the iWatch to go with it?
  - mosselman 7y ago
    You just pay with your data when you get something like xiaomi or basically any other phone. On top of that you get a very good phone and about 5-6 years of software updates. I don’t call €500 (SE) very expensive, though it is a lot of money all at once.
- bhanhfo 7y ago
  No multi-user accounts possible (work/private separation) or something like Samsung Knox. This is stopping me from switching.
  - simonh 7y ago
    My company recently adopted SecureMail, SecureHub and the other Citrix mobile stuff, it seems to sandbox itself from the rest of the system pretty well. It controls which apps you can cut-n-paste between or share links to for example. I think it's uses MDM under the hood to manage data sharing and permissions.
  - BillinghamJ 7y ago
    They actually did just introduce support in iOS 13 for a type of MDM which does works roughly like the Google work profile thing.
- ensignavenger 7y ago
  There is nothing like f-droid possible on the iPhone.
- sterlind 7y ago
  nothing's wrong with them, it's just that I have an Android phone and don't want to get a new phone just for this.
toxik 7y ago
I have both but cannot wear the watch because it gives me a really bad rash. It’s apparently not uncommon.
- sudhirj 7y ago
  On which part? Under the watch or the strap? I had a problem with the strap (I sweat a lot) so I got a Nike fabric strap - it breathes a lot, so no effect on my skin.
  - dijit 7y ago
    It should also be noted that there are two types of metal finish on the watch: the aluminium and the stainless steel.
- Johnjonjoan 7y ago
  Your sweat could be getting a bit of a current going through it, are there charging contacts near the part of the watch that gives you the rash? Salty water (sweat) and electricity could well be making acid that's causing the rash. Sorry that this isn't really a solution but I find if I don't wear my fitness watch when exercising I don't get rashes.
  - dan1234 7y ago
    No, the Apple Watch uses wireless charging so there aren't any exposed contacts that I can see.
    - vermilingua 7y ago
      There are accessory contacts inside the strap latch. It's possible, though unlikely, that sweat is getting in there.
- vmception 7y ago
  I had a fitbit back in 2014 and the irritation turned me off of all fitness trackers In 2019 I got an Apple Watch with stainless steel band and have not had any issues

yosito 7y ago

> I'd buy one in a heartbeat I see what you did there.

BadOakOx 7y ago

"FDA-cleared" not approved. There is a huge difference: https://www.cnet.com/news/fda-approved-vs-fda-cleared-whats-the-difference/ https://www.cnet.com/news/fda-approved-vs-fda-cleared-whats-...

mosselman 7y ago

What is wrong with an iPhone?

roschdal 7y ago
Very expensive telephone.
- sudhirj 7y ago
  Can get the SE, which is pretty midrange unless you’re comparing it to feature phones.
  - hexmiles 7y ago
    where i am the SE is 500€. Is a LOT more than the 180€ that i payed my xiaomi. I wouldn't really call it midrange... but i guess it depends where you live? Considering another 460€ for the watch it become very expensive. Also not long ago 500€ (here) was considered a notch under top of the line. edit: as a reference, feature phone extremely rarely surpass the 100€ on amazon and are generically around 50-60€. edit: fix grammar
    - ChuckNorris89 7y ago
      Agreed, $500 might be entry level phone in US income money but in Europe(an most of the world) that's a lot of money.
      - saiya-jin 7y ago
        Its not only about can-I-affort-it. Here in Switzerland, most of my IT colleagues have android phones 1-5 years old that were never top of the line and they are fine with them, including me. With salaries that could comfortably afford them latest top apple phones every generation if they wanted. But why would they do that? Phones are not secure by default, anybody thinking otherwise is naive and uneducated, Apple is not an exception. What else does an Apple phone offer to IT guy that rest doesn't? The answer for most of us, nothing. We just run an app XYZ. And those phones are just fine for that. SE being no exception to this, its still way pricier than Android counterparts. Like most of us, for most use cases we don't buy overpriced status things with decent quality, rather stuff that has good price/quality ratio, emphasis more on quality. Same with cars, kitchen, other electronics or generally home equipment, sport equipment and so on.
- ChuckNorris89 7y ago
  While true for most people outside of highly skilled western income levels, if you can't afford an iPhone how can you afford the iWatch to go with it?
- mosselman 7y ago
  You just pay with your data when you get something like xiaomi or basically any other phone. On top of that you get a very good phone and about 5-6 years of software updates. I don’t call €500 (SE) very expensive, though it is a lot of money all at once.
bhanhfo 7y ago
No multi-user accounts possible (work/private separation) or something like Samsung Knox. This is stopping me from switching.
- simonh 7y ago
  My company recently adopted SecureMail, SecureHub and the other Citrix mobile stuff, it seems to sandbox itself from the rest of the system pretty well. It controls which apps you can cut-n-paste between or share links to for example. I think it's uses MDM under the hood to manage data sharing and permissions.
- BillinghamJ 7y ago
  They actually did just introduce support in iOS 13 for a type of MDM which does works roughly like the Google work profile thing.
ensignavenger 7y ago
There is nothing like f-droid possible on the iPhone.
sterlind 7y ago
nothing's wrong with them, it's just that I have an Android phone and don't want to get a new phone just for this.

toxik 7y ago

I have both but cannot wear the watch because it gives me a really bad rash. It’s apparently not uncommon.

sudhirj 7y ago
On which part? Under the watch or the strap? I had a problem with the strap (I sweat a lot) so I got a Nike fabric strap - it breathes a lot, so no effect on my skin.
- dijit 7y ago
  It should also be noted that there are two types of metal finish on the watch: the aluminium and the stainless steel.
Johnjonjoan 7y ago
Your sweat could be getting a bit of a current going through it, are there charging contacts near the part of the watch that gives you the rash? Salty water (sweat) and electricity could well be making acid that's causing the rash. Sorry that this isn't really a solution but I find if I don't wear my fitness watch when exercising I don't get rashes.
- dan1234 7y ago
  No, the Apple Watch uses wireless charging so there aren't any exposed contacts that I can see.
  - vermilingua 7y ago
    There are accessory contacts inside the strap latch. It's possible, though unlikely, that sweat is getting in there.
vmception 7y ago
I had a fitbit back in 2014 and the irritation turned me off of all fitness trackers In 2019 I got an Apple Watch with stainless steel band and have not had any issues