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Spoiler: “Real” here meaning “we don’t know what they are”. A researcher YouTube already put together a video showing the unlikelihood that it’s extra terrestr

Spoiler: “Real” here meaning “we don’t know what they are”. A researcher YouTube already put together a video showing the unlikelihood that it’s extra terrestrial, and more of a visual phenomena of the camera they were testing out on these planes. If someone would be kind as to link it.

mouzogu 6y ago
I think you mean this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7jcBGLIpus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7jcBGLIpus One thing that is not really explained is why experienced pilots would not be aware of the phenomena explained in this video. Seems to me they would experience this all the time. fwiw I don't think it's actually an extraterrestrial object.
- MuffinFlavored 6y ago
  what do you think it is? a really advanced hobbyist f*cking with society?
  - dorkwood 6y ago
    It's interesting that people jump straight from "object we don't understand" to "therefore it must have come from another planet". If I ever suggest to someone that it could be, for example, an animal that no one has ever seen before, atmospheric phenomena we've never observed before, experimental aircraft from another country, experimental aircraft from the US, disinformation campaign by the US military for some yet unknown reason, lone scientist's experimental drone, simultaneous hack of all pilots systems, etc, I'm usually met with "don't be silly, those are impossible". Well, why isn't "alien spaceship from another planet" also impossible? Why is that more likely than the other explanations?
- morty_s 6y ago
  This. Being a pilot is a lot of work. Depending on the craft, there’s a lot of things you must know and commit to memory; some things shouldn’t be committed to memory (best if technical manuals, standard operating procedures, etc are used). Very experienced pilots share similarities with very experienced engineers. Maybe the analogy I’m looking for is: an engineer might not know the capabilities and limitations of each peripheral device they use, but can still be experienced. Also bear in mind, that this type of piloting is a high-stakes job; extraterrestrial craft are arguably less common than those made on earth and the pilots probably take this into consideration. That said, I think this this whole ordeal is really interesting. Reading the comments, I think the “lasers” and “plasma” stuff + dropping “vehicle” from the nomenclature (i.e. “unidentifiable aerial phenomenon”) is rather interesting.
chrisseaton 6y ago
> Spoiler: “Real” here meaning “we don’t know what they are”. That's what UFO means - 'unidentified'.
- CydeWeys 6y ago
  Yes, that's the literal original meaning of the initialism, but a lot of people take it to mean "alien spacecraft".
ballarak 6y ago
Read Christopher Mellon's, Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and Minority Staff Director Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, twitter (https://twitter.com/ChristopherKMe4 https://twitter.com/ChristopherKMe4) for his take on this. The debunker misses a lot like multiple visual and radar confirmations on the target.

mouzogu 6y ago

I think you mean this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7jcBGLIpus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7jcBGLIpus One thing that is not really explained is why experienced pilots would not be aware of the phenomena explained in this video. Seems to me they would experience this all the time. fwiw I don't think it's actually an extraterrestrial object.

MuffinFlavored 6y ago
what do you think it is? a really advanced hobbyist f*cking with society?
- dorkwood 6y ago
  It's interesting that people jump straight from "object we don't understand" to "therefore it must have come from another planet". If I ever suggest to someone that it could be, for example, an animal that no one has ever seen before, atmospheric phenomena we've never observed before, experimental aircraft from another country, experimental aircraft from the US, disinformation campaign by the US military for some yet unknown reason, lone scientist's experimental drone, simultaneous hack of all pilots systems, etc, I'm usually met with "don't be silly, those are impossible". Well, why isn't "alien spaceship from another planet" also impossible? Why is that more likely than the other explanations?
morty_s 6y ago
This. Being a pilot is a lot of work. Depending on the craft, there’s a lot of things you must know and commit to memory; some things shouldn’t be committed to memory (best if technical manuals, standard operating procedures, etc are used). Very experienced pilots share similarities with very experienced engineers. Maybe the analogy I’m looking for is: an engineer might not know the capabilities and limitations of each peripheral device they use, but can still be experienced. Also bear in mind, that this type of piloting is a high-stakes job; extraterrestrial craft are arguably less common than those made on earth and the pilots probably take this into consideration. That said, I think this this whole ordeal is really interesting. Reading the comments, I think the “lasers” and “plasma” stuff + dropping “vehicle” from the nomenclature (i.e. “unidentifiable aerial phenomenon”) is rather interesting.

chrisseaton 6y ago

> Spoiler: “Real” here meaning “we don’t know what they are”. That's what UFO means - 'unidentified'.

CydeWeys 6y ago
Yes, that's the literal original meaning of the initialism, but a lot of people take it to mean "alien spacecraft".

ballarak 6y ago

Read Christopher Mellon's, Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and Minority Staff Director Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, twitter (https://twitter.com/ChristopherKMe4 https://twitter.com/ChristopherKMe4) for his take on this. The debunker misses a lot like multiple visual and radar confirmations on the target.