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In the EU there are graphs showing the "daily deaths / day" over the last 2 years. One can pretty easily see the impact of COVID-19 there, even on countries th

In the EU there are graphs showing the "daily deaths / day" over the last 2 years. One can pretty easily see the impact of COVID-19 there, even on countries that are not testing and therefore not reporting any cases... Unfortunately I haven't been able to find that data for the US.

pbhjpbhj 6y ago
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ They include "deaths per day" in one of the charts. Early on I found their stats to be consistent with other trusted sources; but I've not confirmed that recently.
- zeusly 6y ago
  I think he's talking about all deaths, not the death's of positively tested, which allows you to guess the number of corona deaths even if you have few tests. This is also known as mortality displacement. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortality_displacement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortality_displacement
- fluffything 6y ago
  That only counts "deaths of COVID-19 positive people". For countries that don't test, that number is zero. Quite the useless metric to report. Much more meaningful would be: "(actual deaths/day) - (avg deaths/day of 2019)"
- Izkata 6y ago
  "Excess deaths" is the thing to search for: https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/04/16/tracking-covid-19-excess-deaths-across-countries https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/04/16/tracking... In the graphs right at the top of the page you can see several locations have more deaths than usual even if you subtract the covid19 ones. These are likely covid19 deaths that haven't been included in the stats, probably due to lack of testing. According to that page, New York City, where almost 1 in 600 of the total population (not just of the infected) have died, is likely now tracking its stats pretty accurately.
- DanBC 6y ago
  I think people are talking about excess mortality, or all cause mortality. Here's the EU version: https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps#excess-mortality https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps#excess-mortality There's some lag in these figures. The CDC will have something eventually.

pbhjpbhj 6y ago

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ They include "deaths per day" in one of the charts. Early on I found their stats to be consistent with other trusted sources; but I've not confirmed that recently.

zeusly 6y ago
I think he's talking about all deaths, not the death's of positively tested, which allows you to guess the number of corona deaths even if you have few tests. This is also known as mortality displacement. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortality_displacement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortality_displacement
fluffything 6y ago
That only counts "deaths of COVID-19 positive people". For countries that don't test, that number is zero. Quite the useless metric to report. Much more meaningful would be: "(actual deaths/day) - (avg deaths/day of 2019)"
Izkata 6y ago
"Excess deaths" is the thing to search for: https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/04/16/tracking-covid-19-excess-deaths-across-countries https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/04/16/tracking... In the graphs right at the top of the page you can see several locations have more deaths than usual even if you subtract the covid19 ones. These are likely covid19 deaths that haven't been included in the stats, probably due to lack of testing. According to that page, New York City, where almost 1 in 600 of the total population (not just of the infected) have died, is likely now tracking its stats pretty accurately.
DanBC 6y ago
I think people are talking about excess mortality, or all cause mortality. Here's the EU version: https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps#excess-mortality https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps#excess-mortality There's some lag in these figures. The CDC will have something eventually.