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God, they spend so much time on emoji which is much the same. They are becoming a bit of a joke!

by chris_wot 7y ago

golergka 7y ago
You don't expect to be able to click emoji, and they don't lose their meaning when printed out on paper.
- felipelemos 7y ago
  But this particular symbol just lost his meaning when printed. You don't expect to click on a paper, right?
- tcmb 7y ago
  Couldn't the URL be the print representation of the link symbol? Text can be represented differently in different media.
  - modin 7y ago
    You can do this in CSS, but it's semantically different than an external link symbol. @media print { a::after{ content: " (" attr(href) ") "; } }
- etrabroline 7y ago
  Even assuming that symbols you click on can't be in unicode, you don't click on the external link symbol, you click on the text of the link, and that text will be followed by the symbol. Even if you include the symbol in the link text, it's still part of the text both logically and in practice.
- dandellion 7y ago
  If you print a web page the links are still there. The icon tells you "this here was a link" and you can go to the computer and look it up. If the link wasn't underlined and had a different colour but you printed in b&w it might be the only way to know that was a link, so I would argue that the icon is more useful in paper than on a live web, actually.
  - hunter2_ 7y ago
    It's not for all links. It's for external links, meaning a different domain than what's currently in your address bar.
- runxel 7y ago
  References can also be used in paper? I wonder why there are actually so many people ITT who argue this new symbol would have no use and no meaning in print...
DagAgren 7y ago
Emoji are not at all the same. People type emoji as part of their text. People do not type "external link symbol" as part of their text.
- Aeolun 7y ago
  What if external link is the symbol I want to type? Would exit sign be appropriate, because I’m fairly certain there’s an emoji for that.
  - nfoz 7y ago
    As per https://www.unicode.org/pending/symbol-guidelines.html https://www.unicode.org/pending/symbol-guidelines.html > The 'symbol fallacy’ > The 'symbol fallacy’ is to confuse the fact that "symbols have semantic content" with "in text, it is customary to use the symbol directly for communication". These are two different concepts. An example is traffic signs and the communication of traffic engineers about traffic signs. In their (hand-)written communication the engineers are much more likely to use the words "stop sign" when referring to a stop sign, than to draw the image. Mathematicians are more likely to draw an integral sign and its limits and integrands than to write an equation in words. So where "stop sign" is in Unicode, it's a bit nuanced as per the manner.

God, they spend so much time on emoji which is much the same. They are becoming a bit of a joke!

golergka 7y ago

You don't expect to be able to click emoji, and they don't lose their meaning when printed out on paper.

felipelemos 7y ago
But this particular symbol just lost his meaning when printed. You don't expect to click on a paper, right?
tcmb 7y ago
Couldn't the URL be the print representation of the link symbol? Text can be represented differently in different media.
- modin 7y ago
  You can do this in CSS, but it's semantically different than an external link symbol. @media print { a::after{ content: " (" attr(href) ") "; } }
etrabroline 7y ago
Even assuming that symbols you click on can't be in unicode, you don't click on the external link symbol, you click on the text of the link, and that text will be followed by the symbol. Even if you include the symbol in the link text, it's still part of the text both logically and in practice.
dandellion 7y ago
If you print a web page the links are still there. The icon tells you "this here was a link" and you can go to the computer and look it up. If the link wasn't underlined and had a different colour but you printed in b&w it might be the only way to know that was a link, so I would argue that the icon is more useful in paper than on a live web, actually.
- hunter2_ 7y ago
  It's not for all links. It's for external links, meaning a different domain than what's currently in your address bar.
runxel 7y ago
References can also be used in paper? I wonder why there are actually so many people ITT who argue this new symbol would have no use and no meaning in print...

DagAgren 7y ago

Emoji are not at all the same. People type emoji as part of their text. People do not type "external link symbol" as part of their text.

Aeolun 7y ago
What if external link is the symbol I want to type? Would exit sign be appropriate, because I’m fairly certain there’s an emoji for that.
- nfoz 7y ago
  As per https://www.unicode.org/pending/symbol-guidelines.html https://www.unicode.org/pending/symbol-guidelines.html > The 'symbol fallacy’ > The 'symbol fallacy’ is to confuse the fact that "symbols have semantic content" with "in text, it is customary to use the symbol directly for communication". These are two different concepts. An example is traffic signs and the communication of traffic engineers about traffic signs. In their (hand-)written communication the engineers are much more likely to use the words "stop sign" when referring to a stop sign, than to draw the image. Mathematicians are more likely to draw an integral sign and its limits and integrands than to write an equation in words. So where "stop sign" is in Unicode, it's a bit nuanced as per the manner.