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It sounds like NY didn't do their job. NY pays millions of dollars to these companies and none of them deliver any ventilators because NY didn't do any due dil

by pdog 6y ago

It sounds like NY didn't do their job. NY pays millions of dollars to these companies and none of them deliver any ventilators because NY didn't do any due diligence. This one guy gets called out because a NY state official claims he came at the "direct recommendation of the White House." This makes no sense, but Buzzfeed rolls with it, and it's likely CYA for the state official to pass the blame onto the federal government.

ghufran_syed 6y ago
"After this article was published, a spokesperson for Pence, Katie Miller, said in a statement that "The White House Coronavirus Task Force was never informed of this contract and was not involved in it at all."
- bpodgursky 6y ago
  It seems far more likely the WHCTF gave a blanket recommendation like "get ventilators where you can, ASAP, don't focus on due diligence" and that statement is being used as cover for bad picks.
- koolba 6y ago
  And of course that note is at the bottom of the article. This is a perfect example of fake news. Deep down there is a story of incompetence and duress on the part of NY State, but instead it’s presented to the public as yet another made up anti-Trump circle jerk.
  - ceejayoz 6y ago
    1. This administration has outright lied about a number of things, including denying to the press things we know actually did happen. 2. "The White House Coronavirus Task Force was never informed of this contract" does not actually deny having recommended the vendor to NY. It's a pretty careful wording that doesn't actually contradict the article at all.
    - koolba 6y ago
      > 2. "The White House Coronavirus Task Force was never informed of this contract" does not actually deny having recommended the vendor to NY. By truncating the rest of the quoted text you’re further proving my point of the fake news circle jerk. The full quote from the article that you selectively truncated is (emphasis mine): >> "The White House Coronavirus Task Force was never informed of this contract and was not involved in it at all." My layman’s reading of “not involved at all” would cover denying recommending the vendor.
      - neltnerb 6y ago
        How does that not read as saying that they weren't involved in contracting? I don't know why it doesn't look like it to you, but I see lawyer speak, not layman speak.
      - ceejayoz 6y ago
        The rest of the wording is just as careful, and logically follows from the first part (you can hardly be involved in a contract if you don’t know about it). “We recommended the vendor and put them in touch with NY, then washed our hands of it” fits just fine with the wording there.
  - lph 6y ago
    If it's he-said/she-said between officials from NY state and the White House Coronavirus Task Force, I don't see any reason to automatically side with the White House except for political bias. This White House has proven itself to be mendacious, incompetent, and disorganized many times over. None of that excuses NY from doing due diligence, but I'm just saying I wouldn't jump to conclusions about who told whom what.

by pdog 6y ago

ghufran_syed 6y ago

"After this article was published, a spokesperson for Pence, Katie Miller, said in a statement that "The White House Coronavirus Task Force was never informed of this contract and was not involved in it at all."

bpodgursky 6y ago
It seems far more likely the WHCTF gave a blanket recommendation like "get ventilators where you can, ASAP, don't focus on due diligence" and that statement is being used as cover for bad picks.
koolba 6y ago
And of course that note is at the bottom of the article. This is a perfect example of fake news. Deep down there is a story of incompetence and duress on the part of NY State, but instead it’s presented to the public as yet another made up anti-Trump circle jerk.
- ceejayoz 6y ago
  1. This administration has outright lied about a number of things, including denying to the press things we know actually did happen. 2. "The White House Coronavirus Task Force was never informed of this contract" does not actually deny having recommended the vendor to NY. It's a pretty careful wording that doesn't actually contradict the article at all.
  - koolba 6y ago
    > 2. "The White House Coronavirus Task Force was never informed of this contract" does not actually deny having recommended the vendor to NY. By truncating the rest of the quoted text you’re further proving my point of the fake news circle jerk. The full quote from the article that you selectively truncated is (emphasis mine): >> "The White House Coronavirus Task Force was never informed of this contract and was not involved in it at all." My layman’s reading of “not involved at all” would cover denying recommending the vendor.
    - neltnerb 6y ago
      How does that not read as saying that they weren't involved in contracting? I don't know why it doesn't look like it to you, but I see lawyer speak, not layman speak.
    - ceejayoz 6y ago
      The rest of the wording is just as careful, and logically follows from the first part (you can hardly be involved in a contract if you don’t know about it). “We recommended the vendor and put them in touch with NY, then washed our hands of it” fits just fine with the wording there.
- lph 6y ago
  If it's he-said/she-said between officials from NY state and the White House Coronavirus Task Force, I don't see any reason to automatically side with the White House except for political bias. This White House has proven itself to be mendacious, incompetent, and disorganized many times over. None of that excuses NY from doing due diligence, but I'm just saying I wouldn't jump to conclusions about who told whom what.