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Whether Sweden is doing well or badly is a big question for the overall debate about how to handle the virus. While I aim my discussion to always be calm, cool
by joe_the_user 7y ago
Whether Sweden is doing well or badly is a big question for the overall debate about how to handle the virus. While I aim my discussion to always be calm, cool and collected as a general rule, who ever claims approach X for dealing with a deadly pandemic is good has to claim some other approach is bad and I don't see how that can avoid being a strong statement if not "sensationalist". Inded, if Sweden had just an average death rate without a lockdown, their approach would be a win, would be preferable. But they don't have an average death rate, they have a much higher rate than comparable countries and their deaths basically continue exponential growth whereas things in Norway seem relatively under control.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/total-covid-deaths-per-million?tab=chart&year=2020-04-29&country=DNK+FIN+NOR+SWE+USA https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/total-covid-deaths-per-mi...
-- Fair warning, Italy's death are higher still, of course but Italy isn't really comparable. Even more, Sweden's in the exponential phase and so we don't know how they will go - they providing a laboratory for the world but I don't think human beings should be volunteered for such experiments.
- ynfnehf 7y agoThe death rate is clearly not growing exponentially. Try switching the scale to logarithmic in your link. It's basically linear right now based on some other graphs I've seen, but it's hard to tell due to reporting delays. Since the number of people in hospital has been stable for about two weeks now, I would be very surprised to see the daily deaths increase by a lot.
- kzrdude 7y agoIs Netherlands comparable with Sweden and Denmark? If not, why not?
- joe_the_user 7y agoNetherlands has a much higher density than Sweden (densest country in Europe and one of the densest countries in the world, dense places don't do well once the virus is released, sadly), so it's clearly not as comparable as the countries in the chart (originally put together by Vox). Nonetheless, if you add Netherlands, you'll notice while it has a higher per-capita death rate, Sweden has been approaching it over time. [1] https://www.holland.com/global/tourism/information/general/facts-figures.htm https://www.holland.com/global/tourism/information/general/f...
- kzrdude 7y agoWhat kind of density are you looking at? The majority of cases in Sweden are in the capital, so the whole area of the country doesn't matter for anything.
- senderista 7y agoBecause lockdowns aren’t sustainable, it’s unfair to compare Sweden’s short-term death rate to countries in full lockdown. Let’s see what happens once the lockdowns are lifted and the next wave of infection takes off.