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Someone _please_ hire someone to follow EM with a phone jammer on. I can't take his BS anymore. Why do smart people like to have strong opinions on subjects the

Someone _please_ hire someone to follow EM with a phone jammer on. I can't take his BS anymore. Why do smart people like to have strong opinions on subjects they are not expert in? (Disclosure: I own TSLA stocks.)

madengr 6y ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect
- Zenbit_UX 6y ago
  That's the opposite, dumb people believing their smart at everything, OP said smart people.
SpicyLemonZest 6y ago
That's how democratic societies are typically intended to work; on issues of great social importance, everyone's encouraged to think about them and decide what they'd like to happen.
- mcv 6y ago
  I think it's also how genius works. When you're really good at one thing, there's the risk of thinking you're good at everything.
  - SketchySeaBeast 6y ago
    Is that genius? Because it seems to be common in the unintelligent as well.
    - mcv 6y ago
      But without having the one thing they're really good at, then.
  - threeseed 6y ago
    That's not genius. That's arrogance. Truly smart people know that their abilities and success are fleeting and do not extend beyond their own little sphere. And if they do venture beyond they are humble and learn from the wisdom of experts. They never, ever think they are good at everything.
    - mcv 6y ago
      That just depends on what you mean by 'smart'. Plenty of people are intelligent, competent, have great ability at something, but lack the wisdom to recognise their limits. It is indeed arrogance, but it is absolutely common in smart people. At least for some kinds of smarts.
    - renewiltord 6y ago
      Lots of average people tell us what "truly smart people" are like. No one actually knows.
hinkley 6y ago
The first thing I do when Elon posts something stupid is look at the timestamp. The later, the crazier. One of the ones mentioned in this thread was posted around 12:15 am. Put the phone down and go to bed, dude.
liquidise 6y ago
I love this comment so much, though i can't decide if it is sarcasm or not. Musk has made a career breaking norms, and at times, rules. If you are an investor in $MUSK_CORP, you are frankly buying into that eccentricity. Personally, i love it for all the productivity and discomfort it brings us. He makes us think, if nothing else. Musk is a maverick. Maybe 90% of the time that energy is channeled productively. As for the other 10%? Cost of doing business as far as i'm concerned. In an age when the younger generation seems to want to eat the rich, Musk stands out as someone using his time and money for good. The apparent flaws are cornerstone to his genius, just run amok.
- threeseed 6y ago
  There is nothing notable or good about his response to COVID-19. It's been a disgraceful example of how a public figure should not act if they care about people's lives.
  - ketamine__ 6y ago
    The lives of young people and the unemployed must be considered in the equation as well because it is unlikely we will have a vaccine anytime soon.
jodrellblank 6y ago
Because everyone likes to have opinions on things, and is encouraged by society to judge, review, critique and opine about every experience. I’m so fed up of this growth of shaming everyone who isn’t an expert for speaking “out of turn”. It has the “you should only do things that benefit me” entitlement of the recent demands on open source developers, along with the “know your place” implicit putdown, and the lameness of people who critic recipe authors for blogging about their lives instead of just giving me the recipe because I’m so important. It’s a terrible trend and if all I can do is ineffectually downvote you once, I will. I fully expect you to reply that your investment in getting free money from Tesla employees is more important than Musk’s freedom of speech and right to be an individual and I preemptively disagree. If you can’t take his BS, don’t read it.
pmorici 6y ago
I think it is a mistake to assume that Elon's opinion on this is uninformed. People were dragging him and Tesla for supposedly procuring and distributing the "wrong kind" of ventilator a couple weeks ago and it turned out that the type they were sending out was the one that was delivering the best patient outcomes. Asked later he said he chose to focus on that type after talking to doctors in China about their experience. The Tesla factory in China has been open for almost 2 months now post outbreak so I imagine their experience with that informs what can be done safely and effectively at their US factory. It's ironic the number of things that Elon Musk and his companies have pulled off that many claimed were impossible and yet people's first assumption when Elon Tweets something w/o explanation is that he must be uninformed and talking out of his butt.

madengr 6y ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

Zenbit_UX 6y ago
That's the opposite, dumb people believing their smart at everything, OP said smart people.

SpicyLemonZest 6y ago

That's how democratic societies are typically intended to work; on issues of great social importance, everyone's encouraged to think about them and decide what they'd like to happen.

mcv 6y ago
I think it's also how genius works. When you're really good at one thing, there's the risk of thinking you're good at everything.
- SketchySeaBeast 6y ago
  Is that genius? Because it seems to be common in the unintelligent as well.
  - mcv 6y ago
    But without having the one thing they're really good at, then.
- threeseed 6y ago
  That's not genius. That's arrogance. Truly smart people know that their abilities and success are fleeting and do not extend beyond their own little sphere. And if they do venture beyond they are humble and learn from the wisdom of experts. They never, ever think they are good at everything.
  - mcv 6y ago
    That just depends on what you mean by 'smart'. Plenty of people are intelligent, competent, have great ability at something, but lack the wisdom to recognise their limits. It is indeed arrogance, but it is absolutely common in smart people. At least for some kinds of smarts.
  - renewiltord 6y ago
    Lots of average people tell us what "truly smart people" are like. No one actually knows.

hinkley 6y ago

The first thing I do when Elon posts something stupid is look at the timestamp. The later, the crazier. One of the ones mentioned in this thread was posted around 12:15 am. Put the phone down and go to bed, dude.

liquidise 6y ago

I love this comment so much, though i can't decide if it is sarcasm or not. Musk has made a career breaking norms, and at times, rules. If you are an investor in $MUSK_CORP, you are frankly buying into that eccentricity. Personally, i love it for all the productivity and discomfort it brings us. He makes us think, if nothing else. Musk is a maverick. Maybe 90% of the time that energy is channeled productively. As for the other 10%? Cost of doing business as far as i'm concerned. In an age when the younger generation seems to want to eat the rich, Musk stands out as someone using his time and money for good. The apparent flaws are cornerstone to his genius, just run amok.

threeseed 6y ago
There is nothing notable or good about his response to COVID-19. It's been a disgraceful example of how a public figure should not act if they care about people's lives.
- ketamine__ 6y ago
  The lives of young people and the unemployed must be considered in the equation as well because it is unlikely we will have a vaccine anytime soon.

jodrellblank 6y ago

Because everyone likes to have opinions on things, and is encouraged by society to judge, review, critique and opine about every experience. I’m so fed up of this growth of shaming everyone who isn’t an expert for speaking “out of turn”. It has the “you should only do things that benefit me” entitlement of the recent demands on open source developers, along with the “know your place” implicit putdown, and the lameness of people who critic recipe authors for blogging about their lives instead of just giving me the recipe because I’m so important. It’s a terrible trend and if all I can do is ineffectually downvote you once, I will. I fully expect you to reply that your investment in getting free money from Tesla employees is more important than Musk’s freedom of speech and right to be an individual and I preemptively disagree. If you can’t take his BS, don’t read it.

pmorici 6y ago

I think it is a mistake to assume that Elon's opinion on this is uninformed. People were dragging him and Tesla for supposedly procuring and distributing the "wrong kind" of ventilator a couple weeks ago and it turned out that the type they were sending out was the one that was delivering the best patient outcomes. Asked later he said he chose to focus on that type after talking to doctors in China about their experience. The Tesla factory in China has been open for almost 2 months now post outbreak so I imagine their experience with that informs what can be done safely and effectively at their US factory. It's ironic the number of things that Elon Musk and his companies have pulled off that many claimed were impossible and yet people's first assumption when Elon Tweets something w/o explanation is that he must be uninformed and talking out of his butt.