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I think calling something propaganda is a great way to silence discussion. It's arrogant to assume that the lockdowns are the only way to respond to this virus
by JPKab 7y ago
I think calling something propaganda is a great way to silence discussion.
It's arrogant to assume that the lockdowns are the only way to respond to this virus. I don't want to assume. I want to be informed by the data. That landscape is shifting, and I want our leaders to be willing to change their minds as new data comes in and we learn more.
Maybe we carry on with lockdowns, maybe they were a good idea in cities, but never for suburbs. It's really hard to tell at this point.
I was for the lockdowns, and I'm willing to stay that way, but I'm willing to hear more facts ,data, and analysis.
We all work at keyboards, and get to stay employed. The cost/benefit analysis for coders as individuals is a hell of a lot different than it is for construction workers, restaurant workers, retail, etc. We should really try to be sensitive to that, instead of acting as if economic devastation doesn't cost lives, and is just a bit of pain to endure while we save lives from the virus.
I grew up in an economically depressed area. Poverty, loss of livelihood and misery kill people too. Think about the fact that this is mainly being done to protect elderly people who have already earned the money they need for life, and is primarily costing young earners their livelihoods.
The political system in the US already favors the elderly at the expense of the young. Do you think you're ever going to see Social Security checks equivalent to what you are paying in?
- Daishiman 7y ago> I was for the lockdowns, and I'm willing to stay that way, but I'm willing to hear more facts ,data, and analysis. Then look at the data. There's an entire subreddit of all the latest papers and analysis regarding the disease and its spread, and the ineffectiveness of lockdowns has been debunked time and time again, especially now that we have models that have high approximations of the real-time spread of the disease. We have examples from Singapore, Germany, Brazil, and various US states about how easing lockdowns without concern for the necessary sanitary measures has a very measurable impact on new infections and deaths. In the beginning there were no clear exit scenarios. We have multiple governments that have expressed them now, with specific goals and measures that have to be considered to not reignite the spread of the disease. So yes, I consider this propaganda because the basic premise of the article is flawed and is the subject of journalists failing to navigate the current state of research, and its implied motivation of defending premature openings at the cost of an additional tens of thousands of lives.