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Aside from the fact that the jury's still out on whether infection actually confers immunity with Covid-19, the options are not just "get everyone infected" vs

Aside from the fact that the jury's still out on whether infection actually confers immunity with Covid-19, the options are not just "get everyone infected" vs "eternal lockdown", you can actually suppress the disease to a level where new infections are rare and easily enough traced, or even completely absent.

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klmadfejno 6y ago
You can do this in a closed system. India is not a closed system. At some point, someone is going to screw up. You can't shut down a city every time that happens.
- ikiris 6y ago
  Evidence shows otherwise. You're even complaining about it.
  - klmadfejno 6y ago
    You're right, that's fair, technically India can do this if it wants to forever isolate itself from the rest of the global economy and into greater levels of poverty than ever before. I had assumed India didn't want to be a closed system.
eloff 6y ago
A lot of Asian countries are indeed showing that this is possible. That's good news! Good luck trying to contain the flu that way. SARS-COV2 seems to be very virulent, but not so virulent like flu or measles that it can't be contained.
- sershe 6y ago
  Isn't R0 for COVID supposed to be much higher than flu? That was one of the major parts of the arguments for lockdown that I've seen.
  - eloff 6y ago
    It is, but paradoxically it also seems easier to control. Perhaps because while it is infectious through the air, it is maybe not infectious over the same distance - but not as infectious inside a close distance. I'm just guessing really. People say flu can't be controlled in the same manner. But we also haven't done that experiment like we're doing now. So maybe the people who say that are just wrong.
rramadass 6y ago
Thank you! Not sure why this is so difficult for people to understand. This is what India is trying to achieve. Delay the spread (flatten the curve), ramp up health care facilities (doctors, beds and medicine), identify hot-spots and trace ruthlessly and finally hope that some medicine/vaccine would be quickly invented (the whole world is working on it).

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klmadfejno 6y ago

You can do this in a closed system. India is not a closed system. At some point, someone is going to screw up. You can't shut down a city every time that happens.

ikiris 6y ago
Evidence shows otherwise. You're even complaining about it.
- klmadfejno 6y ago
  You're right, that's fair, technically India can do this if it wants to forever isolate itself from the rest of the global economy and into greater levels of poverty than ever before. I had assumed India didn't want to be a closed system.

eloff 6y ago

A lot of Asian countries are indeed showing that this is possible. That's good news! Good luck trying to contain the flu that way. SARS-COV2 seems to be very virulent, but not so virulent like flu or measles that it can't be contained.

sershe 6y ago
Isn't R0 for COVID supposed to be much higher than flu? That was one of the major parts of the arguments for lockdown that I've seen.
- eloff 6y ago
  It is, but paradoxically it also seems easier to control. Perhaps because while it is infectious through the air, it is maybe not infectious over the same distance - but not as infectious inside a close distance. I'm just guessing really. People say flu can't be controlled in the same manner. But we also haven't done that experiment like we're doing now. So maybe the people who say that are just wrong.

rramadass 6y ago

Thank you! Not sure why this is so difficult for people to understand. This is what India is trying to achieve. Delay the spread (flatten the curve), ramp up health care facilities (doctors, beds and medicine), identify hot-spots and trace ruthlessly and finally hope that some medicine/vaccine would be quickly invented (the whole world is working on it).