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What is your reaction to Sweden's COVID track? They didn't shut down daily life, and their hospitals are doing just fine. In fact, COVID cases and deaths have

What is your reaction to Sweden's COVID track? They didn't shut down daily life, and their hospitals are doing just fine. In fact, COVID cases and deaths have plateaued. Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52395866 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52395866

zizee 6y ago
From the linked article: > data suggests the vast majority of the population have taken to voluntary social distancing, which is the crux of Sweden's strategy to slow the spread of the virus.
beamatronic 6y ago
Educated, rule-following population that values science and logic. Here we have “Tiger King”
- recursive 6y ago
  They have Tiger King also, by VPN if necessary.
bsder 6y ago
This is my reaction: "This Japanese Island Lifted Its Coronavirus Lockdown Too Soon and Became a Warning to the World" https://time.com/5826918/hokkaido-coronavirus-lockdown/ https://time.com/5826918/hokkaido-coronavirus-lockdown/ Restrictions could start easing if you could manage an outbreak swiftly. This requires: 1) Enough tests that actually worked so you can SPOT an outbreak before it goes 3 weeks. 2) Enough resources in the medical system to handle an actual spike without collapsing 3) Enough protective equipment that won't disappear in the face of panic buying This is the MINIMUM. Are we there yet? Otherwise, you get Hokkaido.
- SpicyLemonZest 6y ago
  I don't know if we're there yet, because the government won't say!
perl4ever 6y ago
Does it make any difference if they have "plateaued" if there are more active cases today than yesterday? Does it make any difference that the US has not "plateaued" if the number of active cases is rising slower than in Sweden, and the death rate is lower? +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Country, | Active Cases | Yesterday | Chg | % chg | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Sweden | 15,647 | 15,441 | 206 | 1.33% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Belgium | 28,602 | 28,255 | 347 | 1.23% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Oman | 1,675 | 1,655 | 20 | 1.21% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Georgia | 335 | 331 | 4 | 1.21% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Ecuador | 21,020 | 20,777 | 243 | 1.17% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Netherlands | 33,477 | 33,120 | 357 | 1.08% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | World | 1,928,133 | 1,908,936 | 19,197 | 1.01% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Latvia | 538 | 533 | 5 | 0.94% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Greece | 1,821 | 1,806 | 15 | 0.83% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Poland | 8,874 | 8,817 | 57 | 0.65% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Iraq | 473 | 470 | 3 | 0.64% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Cyprus | 659 | 655 | 4 | 0.61% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Lebanon | 541 | 538 | 3 | 0.56% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Portugal | 21,742 | 21,632 | 110 | 0.51% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Slovenia | 1,098 | 1,093 | 5 | 0.46% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Lithuania | 934 | 930 | 4 | 0.43% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Norway | 7,317 | 7,294 | 23 | 0.32% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Kuwait | 2,254 | 2,249 | 5 | 0.22% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Estonia | 1,364 | 1,361 | 3 | 0.22% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | USA | 813,655 | 812,966 | 689 | 0.08% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Japan | 11,260 | 11,260 | 0 | 0.00% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+

zizee 6y ago

From the linked article: > data suggests the vast majority of the population have taken to voluntary social distancing, which is the crux of Sweden's strategy to slow the spread of the virus.

beamatronic 6y ago

Educated, rule-following population that values science and logic. Here we have “Tiger King”

recursive 6y ago
They have Tiger King also, by VPN if necessary.

bsder 6y ago

This is my reaction: "This Japanese Island Lifted Its Coronavirus Lockdown Too Soon and Became a Warning to the World" https://time.com/5826918/hokkaido-coronavirus-lockdown/ https://time.com/5826918/hokkaido-coronavirus-lockdown/ Restrictions could start easing if you could manage an outbreak swiftly. This requires: 1) Enough tests that actually worked so you can SPOT an outbreak before it goes 3 weeks. 2) Enough resources in the medical system to handle an actual spike without collapsing 3) Enough protective equipment that won't disappear in the face of panic buying This is the MINIMUM. Are we there yet? Otherwise, you get Hokkaido.

SpicyLemonZest 6y ago
I don't know if we're there yet, because the government won't say!

perl4ever 6y ago

Does it make any difference if they have "plateaued" if there are more active cases today than yesterday? Does it make any difference that the US has not "plateaued" if the number of active cases is rising slower than in Sweden, and the death rate is lower? +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Country, | Active Cases | Yesterday | Chg | % chg | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Sweden | 15,647 | 15,441 | 206 | 1.33% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Belgium | 28,602 | 28,255 | 347 | 1.23% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Oman | 1,675 | 1,655 | 20 | 1.21% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Georgia | 335 | 331 | 4 | 1.21% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Ecuador | 21,020 | 20,777 | 243 | 1.17% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Netherlands | 33,477 | 33,120 | 357 | 1.08% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | World | 1,928,133 | 1,908,936 | 19,197 | 1.01% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Latvia | 538 | 533 | 5 | 0.94% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Greece | 1,821 | 1,806 | 15 | 0.83% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Poland | 8,874 | 8,817 | 57 | 0.65% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Iraq | 473 | 470 | 3 | 0.64% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Cyprus | 659 | 655 | 4 | 0.61% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Lebanon | 541 | 538 | 3 | 0.56% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Portugal | 21,742 | 21,632 | 110 | 0.51% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Slovenia | 1,098 | 1,093 | 5 | 0.46% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Lithuania | 934 | 930 | 4 | 0.43% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Norway | 7,317 | 7,294 | 23 | 0.32% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Kuwait | 2,254 | 2,249 | 5 | 0.22% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Estonia | 1,364 | 1,361 | 3 | 0.22% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | USA | 813,655 | 812,966 | 689 | 0.08% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+ | Japan | 11,260 | 11,260 | 0 | 0.00% | +-------------+--------------+-----------+--------+-------+