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> I've never heard anyone even talk about a party, nobody's doing anything stronger than weed, nobody's fucking or even dating at all. That's easy to explain:

by daptaq 6y ago

> I've never heard anyone even talk about a party, nobody's doing anything stronger than weed, nobody's fucking or even dating at all. That's easy to explain: You don't have to talk about these things anymore, because of IM & co.. It's all still happening, but it's easier to hide it from the "dweebs". I've seen both sides, and it's really surprising how well this unwritten system works. At best you realize a few years or decades later.

oblio 6y ago
> I've seen both sides, and it's really surprising how well this unwritten system works. Mind giving more details for someone who was last a teen more than a decade ago? :-)
- daptaq 6y ago
  Don't talk about it to outsiders, it's really nothing new, just easier to not accidentally slip that you were at a party someone else wasn't invited to.
- csallen 6y ago
  My twin brother was much more popular than I was in high school. I was one of the nerds working hard to get into a good school. I never heard anything about the parties, drugs, sex, etc. going on until my senior year. My own brother rarely talked to me about what was going on.
aerovistae 6y ago
Exactly. I think the parent comment may be a little misled about who's fucking and who's doing what drugs.
- nostrademons 6y ago
  Though judging by peer-reviewed research [1] and falling teen pregnancy rates [2], s/he's probably right. [1] https://www.cdc.gov/healthyyouth/data/yrbs/pdf/trends/2015_us_sexual_trend_yrbs.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/healthyyouth/data/yrbs/pdf/trends/2015_u... [2] https://www.cdc.gov/teenpregnancy/about/index.htm https://www.cdc.gov/teenpregnancy/about/index.htm
Taek 6y ago
Recent studies have been consistent with the result that teenagers are having less sex today than they used to.
- daptaq 6y ago
  Ok, there's been more education on STDs and teen pregnancy, but even still, because of WhatsApp/Facebook messenger, a lot of what used to happen in the hallways (or at least how Hollywood depicts it) can how be "virtually" hidden.
  - Taek 6y ago
    Less than being worried about the 'why', I'm just stating the facts. These studies usually collect information via anonymous surveys, and generally there's reason to believe that these surveys are reliable. Saying "it just happens virtually now" doesn't change the results of the studies. We aren't measuring by listening to hallway conversations, we are measuring by directly asking teens "are you sexually active?", in a safe, anonymous environment. http://recapp.etr.org/recapp/index.cfm?fuseaction=pages.StatisticsDetail&PageID=555 http://recapp.etr.org/recapp/index.cfm?fuseaction=pages.Stat...
    - daptaq 6y ago
      I totally agree, for whatever reason it's decreasing. The reason I mention hallway conversations is that that's the way OP or any non-statistician would perceive these things. That's why he says > nobody's f*ing or even dating at all. while your link claims > In 2015, 41% of high school students reported having sexual intercourse.
user5994461 6y ago
The partying portrayed in the media is more representative of student life in universities. There's not much going on in high schools, 15 years old kids living at their parents who can't even buy alcohol.
- servercobra 6y ago
  I think that very much depends on where you grew up. I grew up middle of nowhere Wisconsin and we were definitely drinking and throwing parties (even with parents home) at 15. All it takes is "cool" parents that accept kids are going to drink and want to provide a safe spot for it (especially taking all the car keys), or someone's older brother who will buy the alcohol and drinking after the parents go to sleep.
  - sq_ 6y ago
    As someone from a coastal city, can confirm that the same things happen back where I'm from. There's always the friend with the chill parent and the college-aged sibling who can buy. Uber, Lyft, and/or a DD make it easy enough for the kids to make sure everyone can get home safely.
- jalk 6y ago
  So laws and parents are stopping teenagers from drinking and having sex? When did that happen?
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- kalium-xyz 6y ago
  Plenty of people sneaking out to get drinks or get high when I was 16 years old and in highschool (8 years ago).
- buzzkillington 6y ago
  >There's not much going on in high schools, 15 years old kids living at their parents who can't even buy alcohol. I was doing hard drugs in house parties at 15 and I was one of the older ones. I had a friend who had to have his kidneys replaced by the time he was 16 and knew of 5 girls who had abortions before they were 18. There is plenty going on in high schools.
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m463 6y ago
It was WAY easier to hide from everyone 30 years ago. I had friends who would outrun the police in their cars. A large percentage of young folks had fake ids. When the drinking age was 18 (or lower), kids had to just be cool to get into bars. The penalties for bars and kids were diminished and the police were not as efficient. Kids brought knives to school, and some brought guns to school. Heck, kids learned how to shoot in school. (I'm not talking about inner city scenarios, I took riflery in school). girls and boys got together. Pregnancy was the visible symptom. Kids were horrible to each other. Fights were common. Bullying even more common. It generally went unchecked. The stuff I didn't realize until decades later -- there was lots of dark stuff, but one surprising thing in front of my eyes every day was one teacher had been habitually drunk in class and I never knew.

by daptaq 6y ago

oblio 6y ago

> I've seen both sides, and it's really surprising how well this unwritten system works. Mind giving more details for someone who was last a teen more than a decade ago? :-)

daptaq 6y ago
Don't talk about it to outsiders, it's really nothing new, just easier to not accidentally slip that you were at a party someone else wasn't invited to.
csallen 6y ago
My twin brother was much more popular than I was in high school. I was one of the nerds working hard to get into a good school. I never heard anything about the parties, drugs, sex, etc. going on until my senior year. My own brother rarely talked to me about what was going on.

aerovistae 6y ago

Exactly. I think the parent comment may be a little misled about who's fucking and who's doing what drugs.

nostrademons 6y ago
Though judging by peer-reviewed research [1] and falling teen pregnancy rates [2], s/he's probably right. [1] https://www.cdc.gov/healthyyouth/data/yrbs/pdf/trends/2015_us_sexual_trend_yrbs.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/healthyyouth/data/yrbs/pdf/trends/2015_u... [2] https://www.cdc.gov/teenpregnancy/about/index.htm https://www.cdc.gov/teenpregnancy/about/index.htm

Taek 6y ago

Recent studies have been consistent with the result that teenagers are having less sex today than they used to.

daptaq 6y ago
Ok, there's been more education on STDs and teen pregnancy, but even still, because of WhatsApp/Facebook messenger, a lot of what used to happen in the hallways (or at least how Hollywood depicts it) can how be "virtually" hidden.
- Taek 6y ago
  Less than being worried about the 'why', I'm just stating the facts. These studies usually collect information via anonymous surveys, and generally there's reason to believe that these surveys are reliable. Saying "it just happens virtually now" doesn't change the results of the studies. We aren't measuring by listening to hallway conversations, we are measuring by directly asking teens "are you sexually active?", in a safe, anonymous environment. http://recapp.etr.org/recapp/index.cfm?fuseaction=pages.StatisticsDetail&PageID=555 http://recapp.etr.org/recapp/index.cfm?fuseaction=pages.Stat...
  - daptaq 6y ago
    I totally agree, for whatever reason it's decreasing. The reason I mention hallway conversations is that that's the way OP or any non-statistician would perceive these things. That's why he says > nobody's f*ing or even dating at all. while your link claims > In 2015, 41% of high school students reported having sexual intercourse.

user5994461 6y ago

The partying portrayed in the media is more representative of student life in universities. There's not much going on in high schools, 15 years old kids living at their parents who can't even buy alcohol.

servercobra 6y ago
I think that very much depends on where you grew up. I grew up middle of nowhere Wisconsin and we were definitely drinking and throwing parties (even with parents home) at 15. All it takes is "cool" parents that accept kids are going to drink and want to provide a safe spot for it (especially taking all the car keys), or someone's older brother who will buy the alcohol and drinking after the parents go to sleep.
- sq_ 6y ago
  As someone from a coastal city, can confirm that the same things happen back where I'm from. There's always the friend with the chill parent and the college-aged sibling who can buy. Uber, Lyft, and/or a DD make it easy enough for the kids to make sure everyone can get home safely.
jalk 6y ago
So laws and parents are stopping teenagers from drinking and having sex? When did that happen?
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kalium-xyz 6y ago
Plenty of people sneaking out to get drinks or get high when I was 16 years old and in highschool (8 years ago).
buzzkillington 6y ago
>There's not much going on in high schools, 15 years old kids living at their parents who can't even buy alcohol. I was doing hard drugs in house parties at 15 and I was one of the older ones. I had a friend who had to have his kidneys replaced by the time he was 16 and knew of 5 girls who had abortions before they were 18. There is plenty going on in high schools.

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m463 6y ago

It was WAY easier to hide from everyone 30 years ago. I had friends who would outrun the police in their cars. A large percentage of young folks had fake ids. When the drinking age was 18 (or lower), kids had to just be cool to get into bars. The penalties for bars and kids were diminished and the police were not as efficient. Kids brought knives to school, and some brought guns to school. Heck, kids learned how to shoot in school. (I'm not talking about inner city scenarios, I took riflery in school). girls and boys got together. Pregnancy was the visible symptom. Kids were horrible to each other. Fights were common. Bullying even more common. It generally went unchecked. The stuff I didn't realize until decades later -- there was lots of dark stuff, but one surprising thing in front of my eyes every day was one teacher had been habitually drunk in class and I never knew.