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What a strange conspiracy theory to take up.

by _bxg1 7y ago

SpicyLemonZest 7y ago
I just don't see how it's a conspiracy. There are plenty of people who openly say that shutdown measures should be in place for a year or two - the Virginia health commissioner said it just yesterday! The only question is whether they'll be able to make that happen.
- _bxg1 7y ago
  > It's become increasingly clear that some activists think everyone should stay at home forever Who are these sinister activists that are just using the crisis as a tool to achieve their end-game of [checks notes] people never going outside again?
  - SpicyLemonZest 7y ago
    Well, as I think you'll find I just mentioned, the Virginia health commissioner is one of them.
    - loopz 7y ago
      They imagine to be living through a pandemic as well? Amazing. What nerves these people have.
  - im3w1l 7y ago
    Cowards who only dare to release the truth piecemeal.
    - loopz 7y ago
      Yeah, I want mine served right this moment, no later.
  - benibela 7y ago
    I am. Everyone should work from home.
- deminature 7y ago
  It's a conspiracy to stop you from dying from an incurable disease until treatment is available, how sinister!
- ENOTTY 7y ago
  Oh come on. There is no grand conspiracy to keep the shutdown going for two years. Everyone realizes that would destroy the economy and not a single government official wants to sit at home with their screaming children for two years straight. This is a fake controversy ginned up by the right. Here are the facts: The Virginia health commissioner said on Friday, "I personally think Phase One will be a two year affair." Phase One involves re-opening of non-essential businesses, continued physical distancing, telework, and face coverings in public.[1] A few publications on the right interpreted this the worst way possible. Washington Examiner wrote[2], "the top health official in Virginia said the state could be in lockdown for the next two years." Lockdowns are generally defined as the closing of non-essential businesses and requiring a reason for people to be outside the home. It's clear that Gov. Northam's Phase One guidelines are a loosening from the general definition of a lockdown. Federalist[3] decided to interpret this comment as schools remaining closed for two years. Indeed, Gov. Northam's presentation did not touch on schools, but that could just as likely be because a decision on schools hasn't been made yet. In any case, on Saturday, the health department clarified the comments, saying, "Dr. Oliver intended to say that the Commonwealth will likely be dealing with COVID-19 in some form until a vaccine is produced, not that Phase One itself would take two years." [1]: https://www.governor.virginia.gov/media/governorvirginiagov/governor-of-virginia/pdf/Slide-Deck-4-24-2020-.pdf https://www.governor.virginia.gov/media/governorvirginiagov/... [2]: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/top-virginia-health-official-warns-state-lockdown-could-be-two-year-affair https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/top-virginia-health-... [3]: https://thefederalist.com/2020/04/25/virginia-health-commissioner-says-schools-could-remain-closed-for-two-years/ https://thefederalist.com/2020/04/25/virginia-health-commiss...
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  - SpicyLemonZest 7y ago
    This is not "the worst way possible". There's just no reasonable interpretation of "Phase One will be a two year affair" other than that Phase One will last two years. Maybe he misspoke! I can't rule that out. But every time I discuss the issue on a forum like this, and I mention that we can't stay locked down until the virus goes away, a few people pop up to say that we totally can and must. I think there's reason for concern that it's not just Internet trolls who think this way - concern that officials are not alleviating by their refusal to give any kind of clear timeline.
raarts 7y ago
In my country there are politicians declaring the 1.5 meter society 'the new normal'.

What a strange conspiracy theory to take up.

by _bxg1 7y ago

What a strange conspiracy theory to take up.

I just don't see how it's a conspiracy. There are plenty of people who openly say that shutdown measures should be in place for a year or two - the Virginia health commissioner said it just yesterday! The only question is whether they'll be able to make that happen.

_bxg1 7y ago
> It's become increasingly clear that some activists think everyone should stay at home forever Who are these sinister activists that are just using the crisis as a tool to achieve their end-game of [checks notes] people never going outside again?
- SpicyLemonZest 7y ago
  Well, as I think you'll find I just mentioned, the Virginia health commissioner is one of them.
  - loopz 7y ago
    They imagine to be living through a pandemic as well? Amazing. What nerves these people have.
- im3w1l 7y ago
  Cowards who only dare to release the truth piecemeal.
  - loopz 7y ago
    Yeah, I want mine served right this moment, no later.
- benibela 7y ago
  I am. Everyone should work from home.
deminature 7y ago
It's a conspiracy to stop you from dying from an incurable disease until treatment is available, how sinister!
ENOTTY 7y ago
Oh come on. There is no grand conspiracy to keep the shutdown going for two years. Everyone realizes that would destroy the economy and not a single government official wants to sit at home with their screaming children for two years straight. This is a fake controversy ginned up by the right. Here are the facts: The Virginia health commissioner said on Friday, "I personally think Phase One will be a two year affair." Phase One involves re-opening of non-essential businesses, continued physical distancing, telework, and face coverings in public.[1] A few publications on the right interpreted this the worst way possible. Washington Examiner wrote[2], "the top health official in Virginia said the state could be in lockdown for the next two years." Lockdowns are generally defined as the closing of non-essential businesses and requiring a reason for people to be outside the home. It's clear that Gov. Northam's Phase One guidelines are a loosening from the general definition of a lockdown. Federalist[3] decided to interpret this comment as schools remaining closed for two years. Indeed, Gov. Northam's presentation did not touch on schools, but that could just as likely be because a decision on schools hasn't been made yet. In any case, on Saturday, the health department clarified the comments, saying, "Dr. Oliver intended to say that the Commonwealth will likely be dealing with COVID-19 in some form until a vaccine is produced, not that Phase One itself would take two years." [1]: https://www.governor.virginia.gov/media/governorvirginiagov/governor-of-virginia/pdf/Slide-Deck-4-24-2020-.pdf https://www.governor.virginia.gov/media/governorvirginiagov/... [2]: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/top-virginia-health-official-warns-state-lockdown-could-be-two-year-affair https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/top-virginia-health-... [3]: https://thefederalist.com/2020/04/25/virginia-health-commissioner-says-schools-could-remain-closed-for-two-years/ https://thefederalist.com/2020/04/25/virginia-health-commiss...
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- SpicyLemonZest 7y ago
  This is not "the worst way possible". There's just no reasonable interpretation of "Phase One will be a two year affair" other than that Phase One will last two years. Maybe he misspoke! I can't rule that out. But every time I discuss the issue on a forum like this, and I mention that we can't stay locked down until the virus goes away, a few people pop up to say that we totally can and must. I think there's reason for concern that it's not just Internet trolls who think this way - concern that officials are not alleviating by their refusal to give any kind of clear timeline.

raarts 7y ago

In my country there are politicians declaring the 1.5 meter society 'the new normal'.