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Well even with your qualifier of "no comorbidities", the evidence is pretty unanimous that Covid and Influenza are not even the same ballpark. Worrying about a

Well even with your qualifier of "no comorbidities", the evidence is pretty unanimous that Covid and Influenza are not even the same ballpark. Worrying about a healthy young person dying of Covid is more akin to worrying about a healthy young person dying of cancer than it is to bacterial meningitis or something. As I've said elsewhere, Influenza is defined by being deadly to the very young and very old, and so-so to those in the middle. Meaning that healthy young people do regularly die of the flu (it's still rare in absolute numbers, but it happens WAY more than covid). Unfortunately, and I know people read this stuff and their quack heuristics start firing, the reason people are so afraid about Covid's impact on young people is because the mainstream media has intentionally promulgated a narrative that "young people are at risk too" because they fear that otherwise young people wouldn't submit to glorified house arrest for months straight. Yes, young people get _infected_ by sars-cov-2, but they do not develop deadly cases of covid in any appreciable numbers. You really should be worrying far more about the flu as it pertains to a college-aged demographic. EDIT: I do need to find some sources for you though. I saw some NY data broken down by comorbidites but am having trouble finding it.

camgunz 6y ago
> Unfortunately, and I know people read this stuff and their quack heuristics start firing, the reason people are so afraid about Covid's impact on young people is because the mainstream media has intentionally promulgated a narrative that "young people are at risk too" because they fear that otherwise young people wouldn't submit to glorified house arrest for months straight. They've reported that because young people who very likely won't die from COVID-19 (they may still need to be put on oxygen and may have lifelong effects from it, but they likely won't die) can still spread it to those that will. Further, they'll put more strain on the health system, and the ability to care for COVID-19 patients is a big determinant in the fatality rate. Everyone needs to stay practice social distancing and shelter, because everyone can carry and spread.
- arcticbull 6y ago
  Young people are also drastically less likely to get severe disease, and drastically less likely to be hospitalized, see FIGURE 1. [1] I find it very suspicious that young people who don't go to the hospital with severe disease would require oxygen or end up with life-long lung injuries. > Everyone needs to stay practice social distancing and shelter, because everyone can carry and spread. Sweden has demonstrated at national scale that's not the case. [2,3] The reality is about 60% of us are going to get it one way or the other, so let's control which 60%, and in what order, and on what timeline before everyone stops listening and just walks out. [1] https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6915e3.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6915e3.htm [2] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-19/sweden-says-controversial-covid-19-strategy-is-proving-effective https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-19/sweden-sa... [3] https://theconversation.com/coronavirus-are-we-underestimating-how-many-people-have-had-it-sweden-thinks-so-136893 https://theconversation.com/coronavirus-are-we-underestimati...
  - camgunz 6y ago
    > I find it very suspicious that young people who don't go to the hospital with severe disease would require oxygen or end up with life-long lung injuries. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/09/my-near-death-experience-ventilator/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/09/my-near-d... Or I don't know, Google ventilator effects. Lung scarring. Young people get this, and it hurts them, maybe forever. It's not common, but it's absolutely not never, and you can still spread the virus if you're asymptomatic. Seems like people should try and avoid getting it! > Sweden has demonstrated at national scale that's not the case. Sweden is so unlike the US in so many ways, this is a worthless anecdote. Imagine the differences in demographics, density, culture, literally everything. > The reality is about 60% of us are going to get it one way or the other, so let's control which 60%, and in what order, and on what timeline before everyone stops listening and just walks out. It's by no means certain 60% of us will get it. Especially if we do what we should do and build a competent testing and tracing system. The attitude that this is inevitable is lazy and puts thousands of lives in jeopardy.
    - mlyle 6y ago

camgunz 6y ago

> Unfortunately, and I know people read this stuff and their quack heuristics start firing, the reason people are so afraid about Covid's impact on young people is because the mainstream media has intentionally promulgated a narrative that "young people are at risk too" because they fear that otherwise young people wouldn't submit to glorified house arrest for months straight. They've reported that because young people who very likely won't die from COVID-19 (they may still need to be put on oxygen and may have lifelong effects from it, but they likely won't die) can still spread it to those that will. Further, they'll put more strain on the health system, and the ability to care for COVID-19 patients is a big determinant in the fatality rate. Everyone needs to stay practice social distancing and shelter, because everyone can carry and spread.

arcticbull 6y ago
Young people are also drastically less likely to get severe disease, and drastically less likely to be hospitalized, see FIGURE 1. [1] I find it very suspicious that young people who don't go to the hospital with severe disease would require oxygen or end up with life-long lung injuries. > Everyone needs to stay practice social distancing and shelter, because everyone can carry and spread. Sweden has demonstrated at national scale that's not the case. [2,3] The reality is about 60% of us are going to get it one way or the other, so let's control which 60%, and in what order, and on what timeline before everyone stops listening and just walks out. [1] https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6915e3.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6915e3.htm [2] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-19/sweden-says-controversial-covid-19-strategy-is-proving-effective https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-19/sweden-sa... [3] https://theconversation.com/coronavirus-are-we-underestimating-how-many-people-have-had-it-sweden-thinks-so-136893 https://theconversation.com/coronavirus-are-we-underestimati...
- camgunz 6y ago
  > I find it very suspicious that young people who don't go to the hospital with severe disease would require oxygen or end up with life-long lung injuries. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/09/my-near-death-experience-ventilator/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/09/my-near-d... Or I don't know, Google ventilator effects. Lung scarring. Young people get this, and it hurts them, maybe forever. It's not common, but it's absolutely not never, and you can still spread the virus if you're asymptomatic. Seems like people should try and avoid getting it! > Sweden has demonstrated at national scale that's not the case. Sweden is so unlike the US in so many ways, this is a worthless anecdote. Imagine the differences in demographics, density, culture, literally everything. > The reality is about 60% of us are going to get it one way or the other, so let's control which 60%, and in what order, and on what timeline before everyone stops listening and just walks out. It's by no means certain 60% of us will get it. Especially if we do what we should do and build a competent testing and tracing system. The attitude that this is inevitable is lazy and puts thousands of lives in jeopardy.
  - mlyle 6y ago