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Almost no one in previous history had an ability to directly target poor, uneducated masses which their own content created in their own bedroom. Also let’s be

Almost no one in previous history had an ability to directly target poor, uneducated masses which their own content created in their own bedroom. Also let’s be honest - the likes of Hitler actually came from the likes of people who would tell you to stop listening to WHO advice and to go start fires in 5G towers. Don’t get me wrong, freedom of speech et. al., and we’re probably also going to get burnt by the freedom with which today’s global platforms invent the rules - but the laws are being written now; and we’re obviously not dealing with an easy, black-and-white answer.

calpaterson 7y ago
> Almost no one in previous history had an ability to directly target poor, uneducated masses which their own content created in their own bedroom. Yes they did - where do you think Martin Luther composed his 95 theses?
- MisterBastahrd 7y ago
  He didn't target poor, uneducated masses. He targeted the most educated people in his society, the clerics of the Catholic church.
  - throwaway8879 7y ago
    He translated the new testament from Greek to German. That helped the poor more than anybody else.
    - MisterBastahrd 7y ago
      And how many people could read his 95 Thesis in that era again?
- anigbrowl 7y ago
  Printing technology was the new hotness of his time. https://www.history.com/news/printing-press-renaissance https://www.history.com/news/printing-press-renaissance
frimsah 7y ago
> Also let’s be honest - the likes of Hitler actually came from the likes of people who would tell you to stop listening to WHO advice and to go start fires in 5G towers. This is not true. The rise of the Third Reich is fascinating because of its populism rooted in hard-working citizens who believed in their country.
- Supermancho 7y ago
  The most well known Fascists, were not anarchists. That is accurate enough. I think going so far as to characterize Hitler's motives (as if there was a singular motive) is a bit reductive.
- xxpor 7y ago
  Uh what do you think the difference is now? Joe The Plumber was a stereotype for a reason.
dntbnmpls 7y ago
> Almost no one in previous history had an ability to directly target poor, uneducated masses which their own content created in their own bedroom. So only allowing those in authority the right to directly target poor, unedcated masses is better? > Also let’s be honest - the likes of Hitler actually came from the likes of people who would tell you to stop listening to WHO advice and to go start fires in 5G towers. No they didn't. They came from the group that censors and tells everyone there is only one right answer and my way is the right way and you can't question it. So lets be real honest here. > and we’re obviously not dealing with an easy, black-and-white answer. Actually we are. It's a matter of principle. Also, I'm american. Why exactly should I or anyone else be censored based on some unnaccountable international organization? Coronavirus isn't the virus we should be worried about, the real disease is the disease of globalism. The commodization of humans, the demand for mindless adherence to authority and the loss of rights as we search for the lowest common denominator to appease everyone.
- immutate 7y ago
  Cool. As an American you should be well versed in how companies work, as well as contracts, and the fact that you can absolutely be "censored" on a private platform.
  - dntbnmpls 7y ago
    I think we are all familiar considering your response is the de facto standard propaganda that is posted all over social media in defense of censorship. > and the fact that you can absolutely be "censored" on a private platform. Yes. That's the point. Otherwise, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
  - loudlambda 7y ago
    That sounds a lot like editorial controls of a publisher, not a platform. That should open them up for libel. (I'm sure you know that as an American)
- anigbrowl 7y ago
  Coronavirus isn't the virus we should be worried about, the real disease is the disease of globalism. Nice axe you're grinding there.

calpaterson 7y ago

> Almost no one in previous history had an ability to directly target poor, uneducated masses which their own content created in their own bedroom. Yes they did - where do you think Martin Luther composed his 95 theses?

MisterBastahrd 7y ago
He didn't target poor, uneducated masses. He targeted the most educated people in his society, the clerics of the Catholic church.
- throwaway8879 7y ago
  He translated the new testament from Greek to German. That helped the poor more than anybody else.
  - MisterBastahrd 7y ago
    And how many people could read his 95 Thesis in that era again?
anigbrowl 7y ago
Printing technology was the new hotness of his time. https://www.history.com/news/printing-press-renaissance https://www.history.com/news/printing-press-renaissance

frimsah 7y ago

> Also let’s be honest - the likes of Hitler actually came from the likes of people who would tell you to stop listening to WHO advice and to go start fires in 5G towers. This is not true. The rise of the Third Reich is fascinating because of its populism rooted in hard-working citizens who believed in their country.

Supermancho 7y ago
The most well known Fascists, were not anarchists. That is accurate enough. I think going so far as to characterize Hitler's motives (as if there was a singular motive) is a bit reductive.
xxpor 7y ago
Uh what do you think the difference is now? Joe The Plumber was a stereotype for a reason.

dntbnmpls 7y ago

> Almost no one in previous history had an ability to directly target poor, uneducated masses which their own content created in their own bedroom. So only allowing those in authority the right to directly target poor, unedcated masses is better? > Also let’s be honest - the likes of Hitler actually came from the likes of people who would tell you to stop listening to WHO advice and to go start fires in 5G towers. No they didn't. They came from the group that censors and tells everyone there is only one right answer and my way is the right way and you can't question it. So lets be real honest here. > and we’re obviously not dealing with an easy, black-and-white answer. Actually we are. It's a matter of principle. Also, I'm american. Why exactly should I or anyone else be censored based on some unnaccountable international organization? Coronavirus isn't the virus we should be worried about, the real disease is the disease of globalism. The commodization of humans, the demand for mindless adherence to authority and the loss of rights as we search for the lowest common denominator to appease everyone.

immutate 7y ago
Cool. As an American you should be well versed in how companies work, as well as contracts, and the fact that you can absolutely be "censored" on a private platform.
- dntbnmpls 7y ago
  I think we are all familiar considering your response is the de facto standard propaganda that is posted all over social media in defense of censorship. > and the fact that you can absolutely be "censored" on a private platform. Yes. That's the point. Otherwise, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
- loudlambda 7y ago
  That sounds a lot like editorial controls of a publisher, not a platform. That should open them up for libel. (I'm sure you know that as an American)
anigbrowl 7y ago
Coronavirus isn't the virus we should be worried about, the real disease is the disease of globalism. Nice axe you're grinding there.