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You are projecting that citizens are willing to throw their rights out the window. A more neutral perspective would be that people are willing to make sacrific
by edmundsauto 7y ago
You are projecting that citizens are willing to throw their rights out the window. A more neutral perspective would be that people are willing to make sacrifices when they feel it's worth it. Also, people aren't "throwing their rights out the window" -- it's more like people are chilling them in the fridge for a small window of time. To prevent their friends, families, and countrymen from death.
(Also, it's not clear that America is all that compliant.)
- SlowRobotAhead 7y agoIt’s good idea to accept that the risk analysis of someone making 6 figures here is absolutely different than that of someone who is living paycheck to paycheck. This is why it’s been so frustrating to see “YOU’RE TRYING TO MURDER PEOPLE” from one side and “muh freedom” from the other. There is nuance of course. I think it’s super interesting how differently this all looks to different people. But I can’t think even during Spanish Flu that First Amendment rights were so heavily infringed - good reasons or not. Best I could find on the topic was the heavy fines for spitting in public in 1918.
- edmundsauto 7y agoThe 1918 flu pandemic is not a good baseline, except for identifying where we fell short in science, public policy, and action. Remember, 50M+ people died (>500K Americans) at a time when there were maybe 1.5B people around. People weren't quarantined. The death toll was much higher. Not saying those two are directly correlated -- many other factors -- but there's not a good comparison on the "rights" front because of that death toll.
- nradov 7y agoNews media was actually heavily censored in 1918 due to the Sedition Act. It was literally "fake news".