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> As we have seen, constitutional requirements are not an impediment in a pandemic Agreed. It’ll be interesting to see the 1A cases that come out of this thoug

> As we have seen, constitutional requirements are not an impediment in a pandemic Agreed. It’ll be interesting to see the 1A cases that come out of this though. There is only so much tolerance to freedom of religion, right to peaceful assembly, and right to petition the government that people will accept. Of course, if there was even a single issue with freedom of press there would be nonstop coverage from the very same. I’m pro-self-quarantine but I can recognize the issue with ticketing people who went to a drive in church service, or walking alone, or playing outside with their kids. I haven’t see “THE” case that could go to Supreme Court, but I wonder if it’s out there.

chasd00 6y ago
i'm both impressed and worried over the level of compliance from the American people. It's good that everyone is working together to "flatten the curve" however it's also worrisome how willing citizens are to do throw their rights out the window. I'm sure many politicians are rubbing their chins right now wondering if the rights of the people even matter anymore.
- edmundsauto 6y ago
  You are projecting that citizens are willing to throw their rights out the window. A more neutral perspective would be that people are willing to make sacrifices when they feel it's worth it. Also, people aren't "throwing their rights out the window" -- it's more like people are chilling them in the fridge for a small window of time. To prevent their friends, families, and countrymen from death. (Also, it's not clear that America is all that compliant.)
  - SlowRobotAhead 6y ago
    It’s good idea to accept that the risk analysis of someone making 6 figures here is absolutely different than that of someone who is living paycheck to paycheck. This is why it’s been so frustrating to see “YOU’RE TRYING TO MURDER PEOPLE” from one side and “muh freedom” from the other. There is nuance of course. I think it’s super interesting how differently this all looks to different people. But I can’t think even during Spanish Flu that First Amendment rights were so heavily infringed - good reasons or not. Best I could find on the topic was the heavy fines for spitting in public in 1918.
    - edmundsauto 6y ago
      The 1918 flu pandemic is not a good baseline, except for identifying where we fell short in science, public policy, and action. Remember, 50M+ people died (>500K Americans) at a time when there were maybe 1.5B people around. People weren't quarantined. The death toll was much higher. Not saying those two are directly correlated -- many other factors -- but there's not a good comparison on the "rights" front because of that death toll.
    - nradov 6y ago
      News media was actually heavily censored in 1918 due to the Sedition Act. It was literally "fake news".

chasd00 6y ago

i'm both impressed and worried over the level of compliance from the American people. It's good that everyone is working together to "flatten the curve" however it's also worrisome how willing citizens are to do throw their rights out the window. I'm sure many politicians are rubbing their chins right now wondering if the rights of the people even matter anymore.

edmundsauto 6y ago
You are projecting that citizens are willing to throw their rights out the window. A more neutral perspective would be that people are willing to make sacrifices when they feel it's worth it. Also, people aren't "throwing their rights out the window" -- it's more like people are chilling them in the fridge for a small window of time. To prevent their friends, families, and countrymen from death. (Also, it's not clear that America is all that compliant.)
- SlowRobotAhead 6y ago
  It’s good idea to accept that the risk analysis of someone making 6 figures here is absolutely different than that of someone who is living paycheck to paycheck. This is why it’s been so frustrating to see “YOU’RE TRYING TO MURDER PEOPLE” from one side and “muh freedom” from the other. There is nuance of course. I think it’s super interesting how differently this all looks to different people. But I can’t think even during Spanish Flu that First Amendment rights were so heavily infringed - good reasons or not. Best I could find on the topic was the heavy fines for spitting in public in 1918.
  - edmundsauto 6y ago
    The 1918 flu pandemic is not a good baseline, except for identifying where we fell short in science, public policy, and action. Remember, 50M+ people died (>500K Americans) at a time when there were maybe 1.5B people around. People weren't quarantined. The death toll was much higher. Not saying those two are directly correlated -- many other factors -- but there's not a good comparison on the "rights" front because of that death toll.
  - nradov 6y ago
    News media was actually heavily censored in 1918 due to the Sedition Act. It was literally "fake news".