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So no more Hackintosh and virtualized MacOs?

by fbn79 6y ago

morganvachon 6y ago
According to the article it is going to be a staggered release, starting with the lower end of the Mac lineup, so I have a feeling there will be several more years of Hackintosh fun to be had.
- xattt 6y ago
  The Mac lineup is likely going to be segmented by their Pro monikers. The ARM-based laptop will be the iBook (following iPad, iPhone patterns). My best guess ...
  - tosers4 6y ago
    they abandoned the iPattern a while ago, if there are name changes then it would be "Apple Book"
nutjob2 6y ago
Apple will still be selling and supporting x86 machines for many years, possibly forever.
- fluffything 6y ago
  x86-32bit, PowerPC... nvm.
  - nutjob2 6y ago
    I think if they wanted to get to parity with Intel or AMD with the higher end desktop processors they may have quite a bit of work ahead of them, and for a relatively small market, so it's questionable if they would want to sink precious engineering resources into that. On the portable side though its a no-brainer. I don't see Apple having x86 in new laptops at all after the transition. But Apple may stop making high end desktop systems all together so it is possible. It's a very small part of their revenue.
    - Hamuko 6y ago
      >But Apple may stop making high end desktop systems all together so it is possible. It's a very small part of their revenue. That's what they said when the Mac Pro was neglected and they still designed a brand new machine to sell.
    - reitzensteinm 6y ago
      My pet theory is that we're going to see an eventual release of the planned but mothballed ARM Zen chips, which Apple could then use for the Mac Pro etc.
- dsteinman 6y ago
  Anyone recall how fast the G4 chips got phased out once Apple switched to Intel? It was pretty fast. Granted, they were a much smaller company at that time.
Hamuko 6y ago
That'd require Apple to stop supporting x86 with macOS. And that's not happening until they a) stop selling x86 Macs b) stop supporting the last x86 Macs they sold. Probably going to take a while before the 28-core Intel Xeon W Mac Pro is replaced with an ARM variant.
dangus 6y ago
Maybe not, but I don’t think it’s a problem. In the time since Hackintoshing first started in 2006-ish to now, Linux has become a real desktop competitor. I think most people who bother with the headache of Hackintosh are better off on Linux anyway.
NietTim 6y ago
In 10 years, perhaps

So no more Hackintosh and virtualized MacOs?

by fbn79 6y ago

So no more Hackintosh and virtualized MacOs?

According to the article it is going to be a staggered release, starting with the lower end of the Mac lineup, so I have a feeling there will be several more years of Hackintosh fun to be had.

xattt 6y ago
The Mac lineup is likely going to be segmented by their Pro monikers. The ARM-based laptop will be the iBook (following iPad, iPhone patterns). My best guess ...
- tosers4 6y ago
  they abandoned the iPattern a while ago, if there are name changes then it would be "Apple Book"

nutjob2 6y ago

Apple will still be selling and supporting x86 machines for many years, possibly forever.

fluffything 6y ago
x86-32bit, PowerPC... nvm.
- nutjob2 6y ago
  I think if they wanted to get to parity with Intel or AMD with the higher end desktop processors they may have quite a bit of work ahead of them, and for a relatively small market, so it's questionable if they would want to sink precious engineering resources into that. On the portable side though its a no-brainer. I don't see Apple having x86 in new laptops at all after the transition. But Apple may stop making high end desktop systems all together so it is possible. It's a very small part of their revenue.
  - Hamuko 6y ago
    >But Apple may stop making high end desktop systems all together so it is possible. It's a very small part of their revenue. That's what they said when the Mac Pro was neglected and they still designed a brand new machine to sell.
  - reitzensteinm 6y ago
    My pet theory is that we're going to see an eventual release of the planned but mothballed ARM Zen chips, which Apple could then use for the Mac Pro etc.
dsteinman 6y ago
Anyone recall how fast the G4 chips got phased out once Apple switched to Intel? It was pretty fast. Granted, they were a much smaller company at that time.

Hamuko 6y ago

That'd require Apple to stop supporting x86 with macOS. And that's not happening until they a) stop selling x86 Macs b) stop supporting the last x86 Macs they sold. Probably going to take a while before the 28-core Intel Xeon W Mac Pro is replaced with an ARM variant.

dangus 6y ago

Maybe not, but I don’t think it’s a problem. In the time since Hackintoshing first started in 2006-ish to now, Linux has become a real desktop competitor. I think most people who bother with the headache of Hackintosh are better off on Linux anyway.

NietTim 6y ago

In 10 years, perhaps