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Alarmed as Covid patients' blood thickened, New York doctors try new treatments

31 points by adventured 7y ago

robocat 7y ago
“ The way his patients’ blood congealed reminded him of congenital conditions such as lupus, or certain cancers.” Do Lupus sufferers take blood thinners? The whole hydroxychloroquine debacle started from the observation that Lupus sufferers did not die from Coronavirus, and it was assumed the hydroxychloroquine was protecting them. Maybe blood thinners protected them?
- inportb 7y ago
  >Do Lupus sufferers take blood thinners? Not necessarily. People with a lupus anticoagulant[1] and a history of inappropriate thrombosis would. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lupus_anticoagulant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lupus_anticoagulant
- pull_my_finger 7y ago
  I have a family member with lupus that took something like a malaria vaccine to "give the overactive immune system something to fight" which seemed to relieve her symptoms. Could it be the lupus itself that helped combat covid?
- ta1771 7y ago
  Unpopular tidbit, for some reason: there's 8+ strains.
tylerl 7y ago
My brother is an ER doc in a well-known facility, and he says this covid thing is freaking the everliving shit out of the front-line medical profession. This virus is just not behaving like a normal disease should. The doctors who have been around long enough say that the feeling in the hospitals is just like the early days of AIDS. All you knew is that patients were dying from a disease that doesn't follow any of the normal rules, and nobody's sure why, and all the healthcare workers are nervous AF that they're going to get it too, but everyone is trying to be brave because the patients and family are scared out of their minds, and calm needs to start somewhere, right?
- wmeredith 7y ago
  My close acquaintance on the front lines have expressed similar sentiments. This “vibe” you’re describing is dead-on.
- Gibbon1 7y ago
  Interesting thing is ignore influenza and compare with other pandemic viral diseases. A lot of them are similar in that they can but not always involve multiple organs and result all sorts of complicated disease courses in a high percentage of patients.
_bxg1 7y ago
People keep talking about flattening the curve, which is important, but I think this kind of stuff is just as important. We're still trying to get an idea of what's even going on. The next couple months, I think, will see huge steps being taken in terms of how to treat this thing and keep people alive. Right now if you can push back your infection date by even just a matter of weeks, you're probably improving your odds by a nontrivial amount.
notquiteacop 7y ago
Like blood thinners maybe??

31 points by adventured 7y ago

“ The way his patients’ blood congealed reminded him of congenital conditions such as lupus, or certain cancers.” Do Lupus sufferers take blood thinners? The whole hydroxychloroquine debacle started from the observation that Lupus sufferers did not die from Coronavirus, and it was assumed the hydroxychloroquine was protecting them. Maybe blood thinners protected them?

inportb 7y ago
>Do Lupus sufferers take blood thinners? Not necessarily. People with a lupus anticoagulant[1] and a history of inappropriate thrombosis would. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lupus_anticoagulant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lupus_anticoagulant
pull_my_finger 7y ago
I have a family member with lupus that took something like a malaria vaccine to "give the overactive immune system something to fight" which seemed to relieve her symptoms. Could it be the lupus itself that helped combat covid?
ta1771 7y ago
Unpopular tidbit, for some reason: there's 8+ strains.

tylerl 7y ago

My brother is an ER doc in a well-known facility, and he says this covid thing is freaking the everliving shit out of the front-line medical profession. This virus is just not behaving like a normal disease should. The doctors who have been around long enough say that the feeling in the hospitals is just like the early days of AIDS. All you knew is that patients were dying from a disease that doesn't follow any of the normal rules, and nobody's sure why, and all the healthcare workers are nervous AF that they're going to get it too, but everyone is trying to be brave because the patients and family are scared out of their minds, and calm needs to start somewhere, right?

wmeredith 7y ago
My close acquaintance on the front lines have expressed similar sentiments. This “vibe” you’re describing is dead-on.
Gibbon1 7y ago
Interesting thing is ignore influenza and compare with other pandemic viral diseases. A lot of them are similar in that they can but not always involve multiple organs and result all sorts of complicated disease courses in a high percentage of patients.

_bxg1 7y ago

People keep talking about flattening the curve, which is important, but I think this kind of stuff is just as important. We're still trying to get an idea of what's even going on. The next couple months, I think, will see huge steps being taken in terms of how to treat this thing and keep people alive. Right now if you can push back your infection date by even just a matter of weeks, you're probably improving your odds by a nontrivial amount.

notquiteacop 7y ago

Like blood thinners maybe??