> Why C/C++ coders don't even write "Hello World" in Java SE before drifting away into rewriting the ball bearing (1907) part of the wheel is beyond me. I writ

> Why C/C++ coders don't even write "Hello World" in Java SE before drifting away into rewriting the ball bearing (1907) part of the wheel is beyond me. I write C++ & Java on a daily basis. I don't know why I would ever willingly choose Java for a personal project. It's not fun & it's inflexible. And the C++ side of me cringes with how inefficient & slow "simple" things are. Especially for anything that doesn't last long enough for the JIT to come along and make it not horrendous. If I want to pay for a JVM I'd at least go with Kotlin. But I'd take C# over Java if I had a choice. And I don't know why you think C++ means "rewriting the ball bearing"? There's a pretty decent standard library these days, and no shortage of libraries to add anything else. Depending on what you're doing there's a richer set of available libraries for C/C++ than there are for Java even (such as anything to do with graphics). > Java [..] has the same performance as machine code It so incredibly doesn't. Maybe when value types are added then Java can regain some ground on the performance front, but right now you're absolutely paying a price for Java. Often a price well worth paying, but still a price.