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Microsoft please use this in the surface laptop update for this year. Last years Ryzen Surface Laptop 3 was a bit anemic IMO. This would be insane, pair with
by rayhendricks 6y ago
Microsoft please use this in the surface laptop update for this year. Last years Ryzen Surface Laptop 3 was a bit anemic IMO. This would be insane, pair with upgradeable storage and ram and I would buy over a MBP.
- uyuioi 6y agoYes. This would also make me consider moving from a Mac.
- Razengan 6y agoAre you on a Mac just because of the CPU? What do you do that solely depends on the CPU and would improve so much by moving to AMD, at the cost of a completely different OS and software? It would still be beleaguered by Windows, the main reason most of us moved to Macs. :)
- oyashirochama 6y agoI mean honestly the only reason I would stay with Mac would be the 4 TB3 ports, the heat and performance of MacOS pales in comparison to their Windows software production counterparts.
- Razengan 6y agomacOS' thermal management of macOS appears to be better than Windows': https://youtu.be/LGOmbNRlZdM?t=495 https://youtu.be/LGOmbNRlZdM?t=495 (8:15) It also gives a better battery life on average compared to Windows on the same machine. And the new Mac Pro is apparently a beast in performance and cooling.
- philliphaydon 6y ago> It also gives a better battery life on average compared to Windows on the same machine. Only if you have a dedicated gpu. Because OSX can easily switch between integrated and discrete. On my Macbook 12" I get 2 extra hours out of Windows 10. But on my old Retina Mac Pro I get almost half the time out of Windows 10. It's a shame that Apple wont go AMD because the battery life would be awesome on OSX with discrete gpu.
- Razengan 6y ago> It's a shame that Apple wont go AMD I think they're probably just gonna go with their own custom ARM processors, which may have even better battery life.
- holtalanm 6y agoI feel like going to ARM will alienate the customer base of developers that Apple has, won't it?
- maratc 6y agoThe developers that use XCode with Objective-C probably won't feel any difference as XCode will likely just silently compile the code into ARM (or both a la universal package from PPC days). It's too early to tell though.
- holtalanm 6y agothere are a lot of programmers that use mac OS that don't even touch Swift or Objective-C. I'm in the web development industry, and I'd say 50% of the developers I know use apple computers for their job. Java, Ruby, even C#.
- maratc 6y agoAfter Java/Ruby/C# runtimes are recompiled for ARM, these guys not gonna feel any change as well.
- holtalanm 6y agothat seems a little simplistic. It isn't just the runtimes, but also all the tooling that goes with it. There would be a lot of work involved with recompiling all tooling and runtimes to work on ARM, and would probably alienate a large portion of developers currently using Apple products as a result.
- unicornfinder 6y agoI will say I consistently get better benchmark scores on CPU in macOS than Windows, but anything that involves the GPU is hilariously poor on macOS compared to Windows.
- Razengan 6y ago> but anything that involves the GPU Even on Metal?
- KitDuncan 6y agoOh even better, the Surface Book. I much prefer that form factor over traditional ones.
- neogodless 6y agoThe Surface Book 3 is expected to be announced shortly, but early rumors and leaks point to Intel. But a boy can dream!
- pubg 6y agoI thought MS Surfaces use ARM chips?
- simonh 6y agoThey experimented with that on a few models in the early days of Surface machines, but quickly gave up.
- e12e 6y agoThey tried again with surface pro x: https://www.theverge.com/2019/11/6/20950487/microsoft-surface-pro-x-7-review-comparison-specs-photos https://www.theverge.com/2019/11/6/20950487/microsoft-surfac...
- soapdog 6y agoThe Surface Pro X that was released last year uses an ARM64 processor.
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- neogodless 6y agoSurface Book uses Core i5/i7. Surface Pro uses Core i3/i5/i7. Surface Laptop uses Core i5/i7 or AMD Ryzen 5/7. Surface Go uses Pentium Gold. Surface Studio uses Core i7.
- Plasmoid2000ad 6y agoI get a feeling that was the plan all along. With AMD processors in the next Xbox, they'd have pretty good visibility already on the AMD offerings coming. I think ARM based Surface RT was a similar plan, getting in early on ARM to be ready for when their performance matched Intel. It's a shame of course that Qualcomm never got there, and it was only Apple that kept ramping ARM processor performance.
- jeswin 6y agoOnce a machine gets old, I usually donate it to somebody who can use it further. In that regard, my Surface Book 2 is one purchase that I wholly regret. Once the battery dies there is no way it can be replaced - not even by Microsoft. They just send you a refurbished piece for $500. This expensive machine contains high quality components. For the sake of the environment, it should be illegal. I will never buy Microsoft again.
- rayhendricks 6y agoAbsolutely agree here. However the change from surface laptop 2 to surface laptop 3 made it a lot more repairable. Hopefully this years model will have an easily replaceable internal battery.
- holtalanm 6y agowhen i bought my laptop, foremost on my list of features to look for was actually having the ability to open it up and replace parts (RAM, HD, Battery, etc). Unfortunately, Microsoft went the same direction as Apple with the Surface Book (minimal to zero repairability).
- thedays 6y agoIt’s frustratingly hard to find a modern laptop with a replaceable battery. Which laptop did you get?
- holtalanm 6y agounfortunately, I was unable to find one with a replaceable battery. I, at least, got one with other replaceable parts, though. I got the HP ENVY 15z (Ryzen 2500u).
- thedays 6y agoThanks for letting me know. It’s so frustrating that laptops don’t have replaceable batteries these days as the batteries will last for much less time than the rest of the laptop. Plus, if you use your laptop plugged into the ac socket most the time like I do, this is not good for battery life and this could also be avoided if the battery was removable.