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This is an odd hill to die on. I'd bet 90%+ of engineers have a single computer they code from at home (even if you have multiple computers) and another at wor

This is an odd hill to die on. I'd bet 90%+ of engineers have a single computer they code from at home (even if you have multiple computers) and another at work. It's perfectly fair to pay for a separate license for each of those use cases. I'd prefer this to some $10/month SAAS model.

ineedtosleep 6y ago
Disagreed. I have a MBP, a Linux desktop and a Thinkpad running both Linux and Windows. My one subscription to a Jetbrains product covers all of them provided I don't run the program at the same time across multiple machines. Believing that most engineers only have one computer IMO seems out of touch with reality.
- brandonmenc 6y ago
  > My one subscription to a Jetbrains product covers all of them And also includes their database tool, DataGrip.
  - zo1 6y ago
    > And also includes their database tool, DataGrip. Which is awesome by itself. I use it regularly and only have minor issues with some of it's behavior, but the experience is worlds-ahead than what I've encountered previously at that price point.
  - Aeolun 6y ago
    DataGrip is quickly becoming unusable to me due to it’s inability to show me a tables/field encoding. I really have no clue how anyone thought that was an unnecessary feature.
    - therealdrag0 6y ago
      Can you elaborate on what that is? I haven’t ran I to that before.
      - elbear 6y ago
        I'm assuming they're taking about character encoding, as in utf-8.
      - Aeolun 6y ago
        Like the other response on this says. Tables in MySQL (and individual columns, and databases) have an encoding associated with them, this determines what characters you can store in them. Right now I cannot modify that in Datagrip, but worse, I cannot even see it without a raw query.
    - OOPMan 6y ago
      Have you considered filing a ticket on their issue tracker? I find Jetbrains are pretty responsive...
- monocularvision 6y ago
  The point was that the pricing of this product is _not a subscription_ so perhaps the pricing makes sense. Your response is to describe a subscription product. I am not sure I understand what you were trying to say.
heyoni 6y ago
No it’s not. I have a desktop and 2 laptops. My desktop has 3 OSes, Mac windows and Linux. Why the hell would I buy this, and then have to think really hard about which one I’ll use with it? I probably feel too strongly about this. Last week I setup a nytimes cooking subscription and then immediately canceled it when I realize I had to leave it on auto pay or else it wouldn’t work.
- dahdum 6y ago
  Just having a desktop and a laptop is enough to kill this product for me, I’m not paying twice when it’s only me using it. It shows disrespect for the user, or at least ignorance. No other paid software I use does that. Sketchup, Sublime, Jetbrains, and Office for instance.
  - fphhotchips 6y ago
    Office is a mixed bag for this. I have a Visio Pro licence that only allows a single installation. Driving me insane.
zarkov99 6y ago
I have a laptop, a home computer, a work computer and I have all my tools on all of them. I bet that is more the norm than not. The license should be associated with the person not the device.

ineedtosleep 6y ago

Disagreed. I have a MBP, a Linux desktop and a Thinkpad running both Linux and Windows. My one subscription to a Jetbrains product covers all of them provided I don't run the program at the same time across multiple machines. Believing that most engineers only have one computer IMO seems out of touch with reality.

brandonmenc 6y ago
> My one subscription to a Jetbrains product covers all of them And also includes their database tool, DataGrip.
- zo1 6y ago
  > And also includes their database tool, DataGrip. Which is awesome by itself. I use it regularly and only have minor issues with some of it's behavior, but the experience is worlds-ahead than what I've encountered previously at that price point.
- Aeolun 6y ago
  DataGrip is quickly becoming unusable to me due to it’s inability to show me a tables/field encoding. I really have no clue how anyone thought that was an unnecessary feature.
  - therealdrag0 6y ago
    Can you elaborate on what that is? I haven’t ran I to that before.
    - elbear 6y ago
      I'm assuming they're taking about character encoding, as in utf-8.
    - Aeolun 6y ago
      Like the other response on this says. Tables in MySQL (and individual columns, and databases) have an encoding associated with them, this determines what characters you can store in them. Right now I cannot modify that in Datagrip, but worse, I cannot even see it without a raw query.
  - OOPMan 6y ago
    Have you considered filing a ticket on their issue tracker? I find Jetbrains are pretty responsive...
monocularvision 6y ago
The point was that the pricing of this product is _not a subscription_ so perhaps the pricing makes sense. Your response is to describe a subscription product. I am not sure I understand what you were trying to say.

heyoni 6y ago

No it’s not. I have a desktop and 2 laptops. My desktop has 3 OSes, Mac windows and Linux. Why the hell would I buy this, and then have to think really hard about which one I’ll use with it? I probably feel too strongly about this. Last week I setup a nytimes cooking subscription and then immediately canceled it when I realize I had to leave it on auto pay or else it wouldn’t work.

dahdum 6y ago
Just having a desktop and a laptop is enough to kill this product for me, I’m not paying twice when it’s only me using it. It shows disrespect for the user, or at least ignorance. No other paid software I use does that. Sketchup, Sublime, Jetbrains, and Office for instance.
- fphhotchips 6y ago
  Office is a mixed bag for this. I have a Visio Pro licence that only allows a single installation. Driving me insane.

zarkov99 6y ago

I have a laptop, a home computer, a work computer and I have all my tools on all of them. I bet that is more the norm than not. The license should be associated with the person not the device.