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“I've got nothing to hide”

3 points by c0inster 6y ago

What's the best argument against this statement?

RichardHesketh 6y ago
“How can you say that when you cannot imagine everything ‘they’ might be looking for? What if your faith, sexuality, technology, ideas or beliefs have become a target? Times change, so too do the things we have that we might need to hide”.
nabla9 6y ago
When you say, "I have nothing to hide" it means "I don’t have this right". It means person under surveillance must justify the privacy, not those who are invading privacy. If individuals have privacy rights, then invoking "nothing to hide" is irrelevant.
baash05 6y ago
What is your email and facebook password?
HelloNurse 6y ago
I have nothing to hide from my friends. You are not my friend.
mister_hn 6y ago
What's your credit card information?
yeefest 6y ago
Lawyer and professor, Daniel Solove, wrote an essay called "'I've Got Nothing To Hide' and Other Misunderstandings Of Privacy" back in 2007 for the San Diego Law Review. Even though it's a bit long, I found his arguments very sound and logical. http://scholarship.law.gwu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1159&context=faculty_publications http://scholarship.law.gwu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1...
- c0inster 6y ago
  That seems like a good resource, thanks!
ujki1 6y ago
That statement could mean at least two things. If someone doesn't care about his own privacy (but avoids endangering others' privacy when sharing information about himself), then that's his personal decision. One can list some of the possible but unlikely negative consequences that the person might not have thought of, but they aren't very strong counterarguments. If the statement means "violating everyone's privacy is ok because I've got nothing to hide", then the counterargument is that some people legitimately have something to hide.
r721 6y ago
Wikipedia has some: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_to_hide_argument#Against_the_argument https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_to_hide_argument#Again...
simonblack 6y ago
"Then give me your banking logins and passwords." "Then give me all of your internet logins and passwords." "Then let me watch you and your SO every night." "Then you won't mind if I take up residence in your bathroom."

3 points by c0inster 6y ago

What's the best argument against this statement?

“How can you say that when you cannot imagine everything ‘they’ might be looking for? What if your faith, sexuality, technology, ideas or beliefs have become a target? Times change, so too do the things we have that we might need to hide”.

nabla9 6y ago

When you say, "I have nothing to hide" it means "I don’t have this right". It means person under surveillance must justify the privacy, not those who are invading privacy. If individuals have privacy rights, then invoking "nothing to hide" is irrelevant.

baash05 6y ago

What is your email and facebook password?

HelloNurse 6y ago

I have nothing to hide from my friends. You are not my friend.

mister_hn 6y ago

What's your credit card information?

yeefest 6y ago

Lawyer and professor, Daniel Solove, wrote an essay called "'I've Got Nothing To Hide' and Other Misunderstandings Of Privacy" back in 2007 for the San Diego Law Review. Even though it's a bit long, I found his arguments very sound and logical. http://scholarship.law.gwu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1159&context=faculty_publications http://scholarship.law.gwu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1...

c0inster 6y ago
That seems like a good resource, thanks!

ujki1 6y ago

That statement could mean at least two things. If someone doesn't care about his own privacy (but avoids endangering others' privacy when sharing information about himself), then that's his personal decision. One can list some of the possible but unlikely negative consequences that the person might not have thought of, but they aren't very strong counterarguments. If the statement means "violating everyone's privacy is ok because I've got nothing to hide", then the counterargument is that some people legitimately have something to hide.

r721 6y ago

Wikipedia has some: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_to_hide_argument#Against_the_argument https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_to_hide_argument#Again...

simonblack 6y ago

"Then give me your banking logins and passwords." "Then give me all of your internet logins and passwords." "Then let me watch you and your SO every night." "Then you won't mind if I take up residence in your bathroom."