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My main method of exercise (surfing) was cut off due to rules & fines. Honestly after 2 months of this I feel like I am withering away. I feel like if I get si

by rland 7y ago

My main method of exercise (surfing) was cut off due to rules & fines. Honestly after 2 months of this I feel like I am withering away. I feel like if I get sick, the disease is going to take me out. And yeah, it's absolutely ridiculous. Nobody who surfs ever wants any other person within 10ft of them. That's highly discouraged under even normal circumstances.

matwood 7y ago
> My main method of exercise (surfing) was cut off due to rules & fines Yeah, it's unfortunate because I had hoped to score some waves. But, after the stay at home/social distance order was issued along with schools closed, the beaches turned into July 4th weekend every day.
onion2k 7y ago
Surfers don't go near each other in the water, but they do meet on the shore, ride to the beach together, get other people grouping together on the beach watching them, etc. Not to mention if the authorities allow one activity people will believe their chosen activity should be allowed too, regardless of numbers. If you can't forego something for a few months to save, potentially, thousands of lives then you are incredibly selfish.
- krlekk9 7y ago
  Welcome to America The government just handed already rich billions Dragging its ass on handing out 1,200 a person, complaining about the cost The emotional culture is the same regardless of class in this country
- tomlagier 7y ago
  Sorry, I don't buy it. None of the things you listed are a) required to surf or b) unique to surfing. Those activities are certainly violations of social distancing, so _cite them_. Surfing can absolutely be done while respecting social distancing. This is like saying "people like to watch movies together, they like to drive to each others' houses to watch movies, therefore movies are banned". The pathological behaviors are only related to the banned activity in the loosest possible way. EDIT: The fact that we're bikeshedding over whether a couple of surfers are less than 6 feet apart while there are wholesale parties, religious congregations, and non-essential businesses operating at normal capacity is mindblowing to me. How many outbreaks have been traced back to any sort of outdoor activity? EDIT2: Also, 100% cite people that are in violation of distancing, and if an area has above a certain rate of violations over a time period, close it. Just... gather the data first.
  - cam_l 7y ago
    I think the point of these hamfisted rules, intentionally or not, is to push responsibility for the spread of the virus onto the public and provide scapegoats to point to when it continues to spread. Or else people would start to blame lack of government preparation and action. Where I live we have had more citations issued in the past two weeks than new virus cases, about three times more. At a certain point, it is not even the gov being heavy handed - unclear rules just take the shackles off petty authoritarian cops.
enaaem 7y ago
I think it has to with practicality of enforcement. With some common sense there is definitely some leeway with the social distancing rules. The thing is that rules need to be simple and we can't study all special cases. Also people will cut corners.

by rland 7y ago

matwood 7y ago

> My main method of exercise (surfing) was cut off due to rules & fines Yeah, it's unfortunate because I had hoped to score some waves. But, after the stay at home/social distance order was issued along with schools closed, the beaches turned into July 4th weekend every day.

onion2k 7y ago

Surfers don't go near each other in the water, but they do meet on the shore, ride to the beach together, get other people grouping together on the beach watching them, etc. Not to mention if the authorities allow one activity people will believe their chosen activity should be allowed too, regardless of numbers. If you can't forego something for a few months to save, potentially, thousands of lives then you are incredibly selfish.

krlekk9 7y ago
Welcome to America The government just handed already rich billions Dragging its ass on handing out 1,200 a person, complaining about the cost The emotional culture is the same regardless of class in this country
tomlagier 7y ago
Sorry, I don't buy it. None of the things you listed are a) required to surf or b) unique to surfing. Those activities are certainly violations of social distancing, so _cite them_. Surfing can absolutely be done while respecting social distancing. This is like saying "people like to watch movies together, they like to drive to each others' houses to watch movies, therefore movies are banned". The pathological behaviors are only related to the banned activity in the loosest possible way. EDIT: The fact that we're bikeshedding over whether a couple of surfers are less than 6 feet apart while there are wholesale parties, religious congregations, and non-essential businesses operating at normal capacity is mindblowing to me. How many outbreaks have been traced back to any sort of outdoor activity? EDIT2: Also, 100% cite people that are in violation of distancing, and if an area has above a certain rate of violations over a time period, close it. Just... gather the data first.
- cam_l 7y ago
  I think the point of these hamfisted rules, intentionally or not, is to push responsibility for the spread of the virus onto the public and provide scapegoats to point to when it continues to spread. Or else people would start to blame lack of government preparation and action. Where I live we have had more citations issued in the past two weeks than new virus cases, about three times more. At a certain point, it is not even the gov being heavy handed - unclear rules just take the shackles off petty authoritarian cops.

enaaem 7y ago

I think it has to with practicality of enforcement. With some common sense there is definitely some leeway with the social distancing rules. The thing is that rules need to be simple and we can't study all special cases. Also people will cut corners.