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Having known many people that believe vaccines can harm kids, yes, it can be a 100% real belief, not some cover. That's why you recognize that it would not go

Having known many people that believe vaccines can harm kids, yes, it can be a 100% real belief, not some cover. That's why you recognize that it would not go well to attack this with physical force - the strength of people's reaction would not because they want to appear special, but because they honestly, 100% believe someone is trying to hurt their children.

partyboat1586 7y ago
The reason it happens I think is because they exist in a bubble. Most people never research exactly why vaccines are safe, they just take it on trust. There is a lot more (mis)information out there on Anti Vax than Pro Vax because it's not the default position. What you find when you look into it is that yes vaccines are safe but only because we take stringent measures to ensure that safety. They are not safe by default as most people believe. Then what you have is Anti Vax people believing they have some untapped knowledge because when they talk to people about it very few know exactly why or how vaccines are safe, just that they are which coming from the Anti Vax perspective makes you feel you know something other people don't which is enough to validate your opinion. This doesn't take into account risk reward even if they were not safe but that's another story.
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LatteLazy 7y ago
Sorry, my point wasn't clear. I think these people honestly believe what they claim. 100% believe it. You could MRI them and detect no (conscious) deceit. It's 100% real like you say. But why do they believe it? I think they believe it because it makes them feel good. This is important because if they believed it because they'd looked at the science etc, it would mean they could be convinced by more science. But if its because of feeling, no amount of pro-vax evidence would convince them. That's the point here: they'll die for their beliefs (some of them at least). But why do they believe it? Until you know why, you can't challenge the belief. Your only option is to challenge the behaviour, and that's where things get messy...

partyboat1586 7y ago

The reason it happens I think is because they exist in a bubble. Most people never research exactly why vaccines are safe, they just take it on trust. There is a lot more (mis)information out there on Anti Vax than Pro Vax because it's not the default position. What you find when you look into it is that yes vaccines are safe but only because we take stringent measures to ensure that safety. They are not safe by default as most people believe. Then what you have is Anti Vax people believing they have some untapped knowledge because when they talk to people about it very few know exactly why or how vaccines are safe, just that they are which coming from the Anti Vax perspective makes you feel you know something other people don't which is enough to validate your opinion. This doesn't take into account risk reward even if they were not safe but that's another story.

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LatteLazy 7y ago

Sorry, my point wasn't clear. I think these people honestly believe what they claim. 100% believe it. You could MRI them and detect no (conscious) deceit. It's 100% real like you say. But why do they believe it? I think they believe it because it makes them feel good. This is important because if they believed it because they'd looked at the science etc, it would mean they could be convinced by more science. But if its because of feeling, no amount of pro-vax evidence would convince them. That's the point here: they'll die for their beliefs (some of them at least). But why do they believe it? Until you know why, you can't challenge the belief. Your only option is to challenge the behaviour, and that's where things get messy...