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> In the US, we're now doing significant amounts of testing, but we're still primarily testing only those with severe symptoms Its not a significant amount of

by cgb223 7y ago

> In the US, we're now doing significant amounts of testing, but we're still primarily testing only those with severe symptoms Its not a significant amount of testing if we're only testing those with severe symptoms Here in SF at least there are scores of people I know who all were sick with a "weird flu" at some point from February to now who would all kill for a test to show that they have COVID immunity. These are people who could potentially go back into society and do more work / enjoy their lives instead of being shuttered inside with anxiety It is currently _IMPOSSIBLE_ to get any kind of test to prove that

abarringer 7y ago
Only way I know to get any COVID19 antibody test is through this study https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04334954?term=serosurvey&cond=covid-19&draw=2&rank=1 https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04334954?term=serosur... and the result may be inconclusive or take months.
- blhack 7y ago
  This is weird to hear because there are several competing clinics in Phoenix all offering antibody testing.
beamatronic 7y ago
Go do the Stanford drive-through blood antibody tests. It takes five minutes it’s free and they do it for everybody.
- cgb223 7y ago
  Do you need any kind of doctors order for that or health insurance? Like how does it work? Would love to go do that
- DrScump 7y ago
  it’s free and they do it for everybody Do you have details on how to take advantage of this? Their website says nothing to to that effect: https://med.stanford.edu/covid19.html https://med.stanford.edu/covid19.html
notJim 7y ago
> These are people who could potentially go back into society Do we know this for sure? I've read that we're seeing re-infections of people who previously had it, but it wasn't clear exactly what was happening.
- halliburton 7y ago
  we don't. he is (perhaps unknowingly) spreading disinformation, but that's really very normal behavior. the hardest thing about this is finding real information and then accepting it.
  - cgb223 7y ago
    Accusing someone of “spreading disinformation” Is a pretty hard line to take when all the facts are evolving and we’re learning more every day
    - SpicyLemonZest 7y ago
      We're about as confident that people gain long-lasting immunity as we are that it's a simple respiratory tract infection. It's not beyond question, but to raise the questions without mentioning that we're pretty confident in the consensus answers is either misinformed or misleading.
    - tinus_hn 7y ago
      For some people any statement which is not their preferred taste of doom, disaster and panic is considered misinformation. The post they are complaining about doesn’t even supply a concrete statement: > These are people who could potentially go back into society Nobody knows if they could go back or not but the statement that they might is somehow the most dangerous form of misinformation.
makomk 7y ago
The US is doing a significant amount of testing compared to what's available almost anywhere else on the planet. I think Germany is still beating them, but they're basically the only large country that is at this point. Journalists here in the UK have actually been pointing to the US as one of the examples that proves we're the ones failing at testing for a while now.
- rovolo 7y ago
  Where are you getting that data? The 'Our World in Data' site says reporting is inconsistent, but the data they do have shows per-capita Germany, Italy, Belgium, and Austria doing more than the US, and France, the UK, and the Netherlands doing less. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/full-list-cumulative-total-tests-per-thousand?yScale=log&time=2020-02-24..&country=ITA+USA+DEU+FRA+GBR+AUT+BEL+NLD+IRL https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/full-list-cumulative-tota... (I'm using cumulative because the daily numbers are missing for Germany, France, and the Netherlands)
  - makomk 7y ago
    It's certainly possible other countries have passed the US since I last looked, the exact leaderboard does seem to vary depending on things like which country is hitting the biggest roadblocks in their test rollout right now. (Though Italy's lead in total per-capita tests is mainly because they were the first Western country to have their outbreak hit catastrophic levels and they ramped up testing fairly aggressively early on in response to that. I presume their testing wasn't so great prior to the collapse of their healthcare system, since they went from reporting only three cases to disaster alarmingly quickly.)
    - rovolo 7y ago
      Are you using some metric other than "per-capita" for tests? I could understand something like "per-positive case", but it's unclear from your comments. I ask because the data I have shows the US solidly in the middle for the big EU countries over the past month (Germany and France don't show up on the daily graphs) - Italy started earliest, but the daily per-capita tests have been higher every day except Apr 4: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/full-list-daily-covid-19-tests-per-thousand?yScale=log&time=2020-03-18..&country=ITA+USA https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/full-list-daily-covid-19-... - Austria, Czechia, and Portugal have been higher than the US more often than not: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/full-list-daily-covid-19-tests-per-thousand?yScale=log&time=2020-03-18..&country=USA+AUT+PRT+CZE+FRA https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/full-list-daily-covid-19-... - Belgium is on par; the UK & the Netherlands are definitely worse: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/full-list-daily-covid-19-tests-per-thousand?yScale=log&time=2020-03-18..&country=USA+BEL+GBR+NLD https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/full-list-daily-covid-19-...

by cgb223 7y ago

abarringer 7y ago

Only way I know to get any COVID19 antibody test is through this study https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04334954?term=serosurvey&cond=covid-19&draw=2&rank=1 https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04334954?term=serosur... and the result may be inconclusive or take months.

blhack 7y ago
This is weird to hear because there are several competing clinics in Phoenix all offering antibody testing.

beamatronic 7y ago

Go do the Stanford drive-through blood antibody tests. It takes five minutes it’s free and they do it for everybody.

cgb223 7y ago
Do you need any kind of doctors order for that or health insurance? Like how does it work? Would love to go do that
DrScump 7y ago
it’s free and they do it for everybody Do you have details on how to take advantage of this? Their website says nothing to to that effect: https://med.stanford.edu/covid19.html https://med.stanford.edu/covid19.html

notJim 7y ago

> These are people who could potentially go back into society Do we know this for sure? I've read that we're seeing re-infections of people who previously had it, but it wasn't clear exactly what was happening.

halliburton 7y ago
we don't. he is (perhaps unknowingly) spreading disinformation, but that's really very normal behavior. the hardest thing about this is finding real information and then accepting it.
- cgb223 7y ago
  Accusing someone of “spreading disinformation” Is a pretty hard line to take when all the facts are evolving and we’re learning more every day
  - SpicyLemonZest 7y ago
    We're about as confident that people gain long-lasting immunity as we are that it's a simple respiratory tract infection. It's not beyond question, but to raise the questions without mentioning that we're pretty confident in the consensus answers is either misinformed or misleading.
  - tinus_hn 7y ago
    For some people any statement which is not their preferred taste of doom, disaster and panic is considered misinformation. The post they are complaining about doesn’t even supply a concrete statement: > These are people who could potentially go back into society Nobody knows if they could go back or not but the statement that they might is somehow the most dangerous form of misinformation.

makomk 7y ago

The US is doing a significant amount of testing compared to what's available almost anywhere else on the planet. I think Germany is still beating them, but they're basically the only large country that is at this point. Journalists here in the UK have actually been pointing to the US as one of the examples that proves we're the ones failing at testing for a while now.

rovolo 7y ago
Where are you getting that data? The 'Our World in Data' site says reporting is inconsistent, but the data they do have shows per-capita Germany, Italy, Belgium, and Austria doing more than the US, and France, the UK, and the Netherlands doing less. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/full-list-cumulative-total-tests-per-thousand?yScale=log&time=2020-02-24..&country=ITA+USA+DEU+FRA+GBR+AUT+BEL+NLD+IRL https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/full-list-cumulative-tota... (I'm using cumulative because the daily numbers are missing for Germany, France, and the Netherlands)
- makomk 7y ago
  It's certainly possible other countries have passed the US since I last looked, the exact leaderboard does seem to vary depending on things like which country is hitting the biggest roadblocks in their test rollout right now. (Though Italy's lead in total per-capita tests is mainly because they were the first Western country to have their outbreak hit catastrophic levels and they ramped up testing fairly aggressively early on in response to that. I presume their testing wasn't so great prior to the collapse of their healthcare system, since they went from reporting only three cases to disaster alarmingly quickly.)
  - rovolo 7y ago
    Are you using some metric other than "per-capita" for tests? I could understand something like "per-positive case", but it's unclear from your comments. I ask because the data I have shows the US solidly in the middle for the big EU countries over the past month (Germany and France don't show up on the daily graphs) - Italy started earliest, but the daily per-capita tests have been higher every day except Apr 4: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/full-list-daily-covid-19-tests-per-thousand?yScale=log&time=2020-03-18..&country=ITA+USA https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/full-list-daily-covid-19-... - Austria, Czechia, and Portugal have been higher than the US more often than not: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/full-list-daily-covid-19-tests-per-thousand?yScale=log&time=2020-03-18..&country=USA+AUT+PRT+CZE+FRA https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/full-list-daily-covid-19-... - Belgium is on par; the UK & the Netherlands are definitely worse: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/full-list-daily-covid-19-tests-per-thousand?yScale=log&time=2020-03-18..&country=USA+BEL+GBR+NLD https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/full-list-daily-covid-19-...